STL 175: Stressful Panel Glue Ups
Tom, Mike, and Ben discuss panel clamps, plywood backs, Craig Thibodeau, Garrett Hack, and Ben's box of happiness!Leave a comment below to enter to win a one-year membership to Fine Woodworking’s new UNLIMITED membership!
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Make sure you check out The Craft of Veneering by Craig Thibodeau
Question 1:
From Tom:
I am building a credenza that will be 84″ long, with solid walnut top and bottom. If the back is made of plywood (1/2″ or 3/4″), is it ok to glue the back to the solid top and bottom pieces, or will differential wood movement cause this joint to fail?
Question 2:
From Ron:
What are your opinions on the various panel clamps available (ie Damstom) and are any worth buying? In most of your videos/articles I see shop made wooden cauls and lots of bar clamps, but I’m looking for a less stressful way since I struggle to keep things flat as I rush to get clamps on before the glue sets up.
- Creating an Attractive Tabletop, Part 2 Edge-jointing and glue-up by Bob Van Dyke #208–Nov/Dec 2009 Issue
- How to Make Cambered Cauls by Asa Christiana #234–July/Aug 2013 Issue
Segment: All Time Favorite Tool
Ben: Sharpening stone box
Mike: Associate editor, Barry Dima, because he’s a kiss up and gave him a set of dividers
Tom: Small hammer he STOLE from the FWW shop
Question 3:
From Craig:
I am going to build Garrett Hack’s huntboard from issue #187. One thing I am unsure of is how to attach the drawer runners. The only thing shown in the text and plan is that they are tenoned at the front to the rails, with no mention of the back. They can’t be mortised into the back panel like the kickers due to the assembly order, and simply gluing them to the sides would lead to cross grain gluing issues. I’ve thought of a couple ways I could attach them, one being sitting on cleats attached to the case back, or screwed into the side partitions with elongated holes. Do you guys have any thoughts or know how Garrett secured these pieces?
- The Versatile Huntboard by Garrett Hack #187–Nov/Dec 2006 Issue
- Video Workshop: Federal Side Table by Steve Latta
- How to Build a Swing-Out Drawer by Garrett Hack #234–July/Aug 2013 Issue
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I would have never taken that as an insult! I am closer to a novice than Mike P is, that's for sure. But, I do play it up a bit from time to time!
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Enjoyed the show. Great discussion on panel clamps and cauls - really like hearing discussion of different options/approaches each of you have tried and what you found works best on panel glue ups. I will be keeping Ben's comment about sawing through a joint in mind!
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UNLIMITED is available for international folks at $112 US, that includes the print magazine, or $99 US without.
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While I would never claim to know more about woodworking than Mike Peckovich, he is actually quite wrong about the Damstom Panel Clamps. First, they do, put just enough downward pressure on the boards to bring them flush with each other on panel glue-ups because they are locked to the thickness of the wood on both ends. Using 3 or 4 Damstom clamps on panel gives a flat (no cupping across the width), flush result across it's width (up to 38"). Many times I use Dominoes for easy flat glue-ups, but the Damstom clamps work just as well when I don't want to take the time to use Dominos. Mike still knows more than I do, but these clamps are the best.
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"Stressful Glueups" - I guess they will always be stressful, no matter how many dry runs you do, but I am trying to figure out why newer glue products are designed to set up faster and faster. Could you experts sometime discuss the various glue choices from hide glues through the mistake waiting to happen "super glue"?
And, I am glad you discussed the Unlimited Package, because it was far from clear after a quick perusal of the offer, why anyone would want that instead of a normal e-membership. And, by they way, it seemed like from the discussion that an unlimited membership gets a year of hard copy in addition to all the e-features - is that true?
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I just called to check the Unlimited package upgrade. The way it works is a bit complicated for people who are already online members with a print subscription. The unused (prorated) section of the $14.95 for the web membership is deducted from the $99 for the unlimited membership. For me, that unused portion of my web membership is about $10. I have to call in to cancel my remaining 15 issues of my print subscription and that would put about $50 back on my card. So, converting what I ave now to a 1 year unlimited subscription would cost about $40 the first year and $99 each subsequent year. However, I already have a full print run of the paper mag plus the digital archive on dvd, so it is hard to tell what the additional features I would have access to would be. The woman from Taunton seemed to think the only additional feature would be access to the online digital archive, but I am not sure if that is correct or not. In any case, I was in a similar position to the hypothetical that Mike brought up and thought I'd share what I found out.
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This episode was very informative, good interaction between Ben, Tom and Mike. Glad to hear about the Unlimited edition, should be a good long term value.
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