STL193: Pocket Screws vs. Dominos
Former STL host, Asa Christiana, joins Mike and Ben, answering questions about jointing long boards, communal workshops, outdoor furniture, and debating pocket screws vs. dominos.Start Woodworking Season 1 by Matt Berger, Asa Christiana
Question 1:
From Dan:
I recently built a pair of desks featured in issue #270. I built them mostly the way Michael Robbins did, however instead of using a domino to construct the top I used pocket screws. I don’t own a domino, I opted for a hollow chisel mortiser, and I thought it would be silly to use a hollow chisel mortise. How do you feel about pocket screws versus slip tenons made with a domino? Both tools make joining pieces of wood much simpler. One uses screws, the other uses wood and glue. One is under $100, and the other is over $1000. They are both faster and easier than traditional joinery. Am I wrong to think if I am not going to use traditional joinery pocket screws and domino slip tenons are interchangeable? I love my hollow-chisel mortiser, and if I’m gonna cheat on it, I’ll just use screws.
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Question 2:
From Chase:
I was trying to edge-joint two 10-ft. long boards to make a wide shelf for our closet using a #7 handplane. Typically, I clamp the boards together and plane the common glue edge until I get an even shaving across both. I think that the length of the two boards meant there was some variation that the #7 didn’t get. I can’t imagine trying to joint these on a jointer, even if I had one. How would you go about making this glue up work?
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Asa: Cordless Trim Routers
Ben: James Mursell Travisher (@windsorworkshop)
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Question 3:
From Chad,
I was just listening to episode 190, and a listener asked about which big tool to buy next, a combo planer/jointer or a band saw. I’ve heard similar questions on the show before. I’m curious as to why you never mention the idea of investing in a makerspace, shared shop, or tool library?
There are a lot of great examples of makerspaces that give access to fully stocked wood and metal shops for a reasonable membership fee as well as not-for-profit tool libraries that are usually state funded just like normal libraries that allow for the borrowing of tools like books!
For someone who’s just getting started in woodworking getting access to a full woodshop for a membership fee that wouldn’t be enough to buy a single quality power tool might be worth considering!
Maker Spaces:
Tool Libraries:
Question 4:
From David:
I am planning to build some outdoor chairs out of mahogany, and was wondering what finish to apply. I would like something that I don’t have to touch up every year. Or, should leave them unfinished. How does mahogany age in the weather?
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Recommendations:
Ben – YouTube Channel: arboristBlairGlenn
Mike – Asa’s book – Handmade: A Hands On Guide
Asa – www.instructables.com
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Comments
I wish Asa could be a special guest every now and then, like BVD. I appreciate he's not on the same coast (and VOIP latency would ruin the natural flow of conversation), but any time he's in New England, you should snag him!
Also, I commend Taunton for going with Asa's book targeted towards the 'maker' scene. Asa's "get working" ethos is a welcome antidote to the problem with most people interested in 'making' - they think they need too much expensive equipment and complex technical skill.
Conversely, if it's not involving a microcontroller/CNC/3D-printing, novice makers tend to think things that fall into craft must be simple - and they don't understand why their joints aren't tight, even though they measured everything. Concepts such as reference edges, making the work square, sneaking and fitting, and knowing order of operations/sequencing translate pretty well across mediums (I toy with wood, brass, and leather, while also circuitry and arduino).
Unfortunately, I know I'm among the few my age that was lucky enough to get even 8 wks/yr of shop class in middle school (as well as soldering as young as 5th grade), but then I was shooed away from anything of the sort in high school as it would supposedly hurt my college prospects (even though I was applying to Mech. Engineering programs, maddening). While looking things up online and YouTube are invaluable, if you've never been in an industrial arts curriculum you don't know what's possible or what to look for.
I took Mike's recent class at the Kansas City Woodworkers' Guild. We are quite proud of our facility and our members. Fine Woodworking is welcome there anytime. http://kcwoodworkersguild.org/
I used a makerspace in Munich Germany (https://www.hei-muenchen.de/) - it was perfect for my project, for all the reasons the guys are mentioning. My wall shelves were easy enough to bring on the bus when I finished. Two thumbs up.
Thanks for answering my question, I am just catching up on STL after having worked on the house all summer. I got rid of my power jointer years ago for space reasons at my old shop and prefer using hand tools for that job. You can pry my thickness planer from my dead hands though!
Mike, I could have used a 14' board for my wife's side of the walk in (land is cheap in Florida), but couldn't find long enough maple locally. I should have just used big box pine to make the shelves, but really wanted maple. Mike's advice was probably what I should have done. Put the boards together as if to glue them, mark the spots that touch, then focus on those areas with the hand plane until the two are close enough to clamp the rest of the way home.
Pictures of the project if anyone is interested.
https://kiltedcraftworks.com/2019/04/28/maple-closet-shelves/
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