I have a bow saw that is old (don’t know how old, but very old). The top part of the bow is a rod threaded on one end. A butterfly nut is used. The threads are damaged in a couple of places such that the nut will not go down far enough. It will unscrew off the rod.
I have taken the rod and nut to a couple of specialty places and they cannot determine what the proper size or thread pattern is. One place had a set of thread guages (looked like a feeler guage with various threads), both US and metric and were not able to determine the proper size.
My goal is to repair the threads enough that the butterfly nut will seat all the way down.
Have thread sizes changed over the decades? Any ideas?
Thanks,
Alan / planesaw
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Any idea of where it was made? Could be Whitworth, UNC, BA, lots of others out there! Maybe you could use a file with a knife like profile and clean up the bad threads. triangle file might work if you have one. Just follow the threads around the rod.
Have sort of tried that with a small triangle, extra slim file. It might work, but is going to be tedious. If all else fails, that is probably what I'll do. Thanks.
Alan / planesaw
You may also be able to find a specialty nut/bolt place locally or else call a local machine shop. Worst case scenerio they can cut you a new bolt/stud on a lathe.
The last place I went to was a Fastenal location. He was the one with the various thread guages. Since it is an antique, I am trying to use the existing rod and threads. Hope to find a die that is the right size and "dress" the existing threads and make it such that the nut will go all the way down the threads to where it will tighten as it is supposed to.
If I am not successful, I will try some alternatives.
Thanks for your help. If you think of any other ideas, please list them as I am open to anything that might work.
Before you invest too much effort in it, try and figure out how the threads get so banged up in the first place. It may be the only reason the thing has lasted for 100 years is that it doesn't work right so no one has ever used it more than a few times.
Well, good thought. Someone added several washers and a couple oversized nuts as spacers so the butterfly nut is further out toward the end where it has all the threads. Since these threads are not close to the blade (12 inches away), there is no reason for them to be worn from use.
I don't plan to use it much, if any, but do want it to be functional as well as close to the way it should be.
Thanks,
Alan / planesaw
Dending on the age there are a whole plethora of thread pitches. Easiest way would be to get a thread file and repair it that way. Chances are you can smooth out the thread enough to get it to work.
Okay -- what is a thread file? Haven't heard of one.
Where would I purchase such an animal? How does it work?
A couple of spots have no threads. They are gone.
Thanks for your help.
Alan
Edited 3/18/2003 9:18:52 PM ET by Alan
You can normally get one at a good hardware store. They're essentially a thin file that allows you to file IN the thread. They make some with specific thread pitches as well that file multiple threads at the same time. From the sounds of it you dont want those. How big are these gaps of no thread?
Probably the equivalent of 2 to 3 threads missing, in a couple of spots. Threads on either side of the gap area have threads that are messed up.
Close to a 10-24 or a 12-32, but not close enough.
Edited 3/18/2003 9:19:57 PM ET by Alan
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