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   Troy | Feb 26, 2006 04:32am | #1

   In that size you might look for an used machine such as an Oliver. They have a couple of them at the Com College in Oakland and they are nice machines but 3 phase.

   Good luck

   Troy

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   gb93433 | Feb 26, 2006 08:39am | #2

   I own an Oliver and it is by far the best of any machine I have used.

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   BilljustBill | Feb 27, 2006 05:08am | #3

      "Woody"...

       You might look and the "China" version of the new Oliver jointers.   Their 10" jointer has triple belt drive, 4-bladed cutterhead, 84" long, and a huge 3hp Baldor motor. 

        Checkout http://www.sunhillmachinery.com they have it (Model 4240) on sale for $1,895.

       Bill

   
   

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   Edited 2/26/2006 9:14 pm ET by BilljustBill

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   woodchuck1954 | Feb 27, 2006 11:10am | #4

   How about a 12" combo joiner/planer, such as marketed by Minimax, Laguna or any other outfits that sell combo machines. The ones I've seen use Tersa cutterheads. They ain't cheap, but HEAVY and easy to convert. The motors are huge.

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   user-114572 | Feb 28, 2006 01:46am | #5

   Re: 12" Jointers-Thanks to those who responded.  I just found a location for Oliver jointers in New Holland PA.  I have also found some interest in the Grizzly #G9860.

   I would welcome any opinions.  Thanks!

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   Blitz | Feb 28, 2006 03:05am | #6

   Could you pass on the contact information for the New Holland company selling Oliver equipment ? thanks

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   user-114572 | Feb 28, 2006 03:34am | #7

   Blitz, All I have is a phone #1-800-445-4669.  Let me know how you make out.

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   Blitz | Mar 01, 2006 03:39am | #8

   Thanks.

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   BarryO | Mar 02, 2006 11:25am | #9

   I have the G9860ZX, with the spiral cutterhead.  The kids call it "Dad's thousand-pound thing".  They were very impressed by the 7 ft. long wooden crate it came in.

   It's my favorite tool in the shop right now.  The tables are huge, and dead-flat (can't get a 0.001 feeler guage under the straightedge; wish I could say that about some of my other tools).  Runs quietly, good dust collection efficiency.  Makes wide boards flat, pretty much what you want a 12" jointer to do.

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   user-114572 | Mar 03, 2006 04:26am | #10

   Thanks Barryo, Thats what I was hoping to hear.

    

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   user-114572 | Mar 03, 2006 04:32am | #11

   Barryo, I wanted to ask you how it was delivered and do you feel that the spiral cutterhead makes a big difference?

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   BarryO | Mar 03, 2006 11:05am | #12

   Barryo, I wanted to ask you how it was delivered and do you feel that the spiral cutterhead makes a big difference?

   It came mostly asembled.  If you look in the Grizzly catalog on the page for the 16" jointers, there's a picture of them on pallets, waiting to be crated up.  That's how mine came, bolted to a pallet bottom.  There's some tar paper directly underneath the jointer, I guess to prevent moisture from moving up through the bottom.  It was obvious the jointer was tested in the factory, as I found some sawdust inside it (with paint overspray over the some of the sawdust, so it was tested before the paint job was completed).  The ON/OFF switch pedestal and fence assembly were unbolted to save space, and strapped to the pallet.  A crate made up of 2x2's and 1/4 plywood (actually, their metric equivalents), was then  built around the unit.

   I actually bought this at the Grizzly showroom, but had them ship it as I wasn't sure if I could easily get it off my pickup truck bed (my tractor wasn't working at the time).  I asked for liftgate service when the freight company called me.  That didn't work out so well:  the wooden runners on the bottom are thick enough for forklift forks to get underneath, but not thick enough for the truck driver's pallet jack.  So he couldn't unload it from the truck when he got it to my place.  I didn't know if the bottom of the crate would stand up to jacking it up to get the pallet jack underneath (actually, it would have been OK), so we didn't try.  I have a flatbed trailer with a 1400 lbs. capacity, so I decided to just pick it up at the freight terminal, strap it to the trailer the next day, and drive slowly and carefully home.  The trailer is small and low ot the ground, so I just backed the trailer into the shop, and used an engine hoist and some straps to pick up the crate off the trailer.

   The main reason I got the spiral was so that I don't need to worry about sharpening knives, and tediously installing them.  BTW, a bonus I got was that Grizzly included one of the pneumatic wrenches that they use to install the carbide cutters, together with a laminated instruction sheet as to what air pressure, etc., to use to install them.  That was a nice touch.

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   mysticgoldtoy | Mar 03, 2006 06:20pm | #13

   I too have paid extra for lift gate delivery but won't every again.  They darn near tipped my SawStop Cabinet Saw off the lift and I still had to engineer getting it inside.  Phooey on it.  Now I take my lawnmower trailer I bought at Orschlin's (which has 12" tires and a little over 1,000# capacity and go to where ever the terminal is and pick it up.  Strap it down & away I go.  Can back right up to the basement door and roll it off (by myself) on three foot chunks of chain link fence top rail.  Did it all myself with my big Powermatic 700 pound lathe as well.

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   user-114572 | Mar 04, 2006 02:24am | #14

   Thanks Barryo, I think this model is the one if I can figure out the delivery situations that may arise.

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   BarryO | Mar 04, 2006 02:41am | #15

   They darn near tipped my SawStop Cabinet Saw off the lift and I still had to engineer getting it inside.

   I was concerned about that, too.  The crate was 7 ft wide, but the liftgate was only 6 ft. wide.

   One critical thing with small trailers loaded to near their capacity is to make sure the tires are pumped up to proper pressure.  Otherwise, a blowout is likely.  It's a good idea to have a spare and jack along with you, too.

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   KeithNewton | Mar 05, 2006 07:03pm | #16

   When you get into machinery of this size, I don't think you have much to worry about in quality, however I would look for things like easy sharpening and knife setting.

   If you are after a good deal, here is a link that you should act on ASAP.

   http://www.irsauctions.com/index_lots.asp?pg=details&tot=&id=8681

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   JeffHeath | Mar 05, 2006 09:35pm | #17

   Keith

   Excellent recommendation!  I have a 3 legged 1957 Northfield jointer, which is cousin to the Porter in the irs listing, and imho, it is the finest jointer out there.  With a 3 hp direct drive motor, I can take 3/8" to 1/2" off an edge of 8/4 hard rock maple in one pass with no tearout.  Try that with a grizzly or powermatic!!  Just for fun, here's a pic of my baby with a new dress on!  What I really love about the swiveling 3 legged version over the 4 legged version like the older Oliver's is that the machine levels itself, and you don't have to worry about sag due to one of the legs being out of plane.

   Jeff

   
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   philip | Mar 06, 2006 09:29am | #18

   Jeff, is that machine really direct drive-no belts? Nice to see a surfacer with some weight .Philip Marcou

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   JeffHeath | Mar 06, 2006 04:56pm | #19

   Philip

   Yes, it's dmd.  The cutterhead is mounted with bearings directly to the motor shaft.

   Jeff