Advice on Modulus Scoring Saw Attachment
In last months issue of Fine Woodworking there was a tool review of the Modulus Scoring Saw Attachment. Being a small cabinet and furniture maker, this tool sounded too good to be true. I could fit it onto my Powermatic 66 and cut fine panel products with no bottom blowout issues. I researched the tool a bit, talked to the folks at Modulus and decided to buy one. Well, I’ve spent hours trying to get this thing set up, talked to Modulus four or five times for advice, and today I realized I don’t think I can raise the saw carriage high enough to even cut through a 3/4 sheet of plywood! It’s supposed to get up to 1 1/4 inches high according to Modulus. I’ve already modified various things down inside the carriage to try to accomodate this thing. I’ve just about reached the limits of my patience, and wondering if I’ll ever get this thing to work. Problem is I took on a large job recently with a lot of plywood doors and drawer fronts that I was counting on this scoring saw to cut the panels up with no tearout. Has anyone else had any experience with this scoring attachment? I’d love to know if anyone has one, and what type of saw it’s one, and if it works at all. I’ll put another call into Modulus tomorrow, but my hopes are pretty low at this point. I may have wasted my $400.
Ralf
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Just my opinion but the proper blade will give you a flawless cut on melamine
without the attachment. Probably don't want to hear that now...
best of luck,
silver
So what blades have you had good luck with on cutting melamine or veneered panels? I do have a whole set of Forrest sawblades, and they work great, but I still do get tearout with their Duraline Hi At blade, which is supposed to be for that. I should probably make a new throat plate. I've got a good one on the saw, but it is a little worn now.
I'd have the Duraline blade checked out. In one shop I worked at we had great luck with it. It was the only blade out like it at the time. We could get one kitchen of melamine out of a sharpening. I took out the zero clearance throat plate for the heck of it and still no chip out.
Have you called Modulus? Used to work for a dealer and it does work as it's supposed to. We had a demo model and we actually had the inventor in our store. In the 8 years I worked there don't recall selling any of the units. I've used scoring blades on different saws but the best results were on a Giben beam saw where the work was held in place with the beam. Typically scoring blades are conical (tapered) or split (straight). The split are the best on most saws as you can leave the scoring blade up higher. If the panel isn't flat it tends to ride up higher than the tapered blade and you get chip out.
Ralfk,
If you have a large plywood job to produce on the saw now, Take the darn thing off the saw. Get the correct type of blade, and make several new hardwood throat plates for the TS. Even a good scoring saw set-up isn't a cure-all for tearout. This will get you thru the upcoming job, and you can always fiddle with the thing afterwards. Good Luck.
Thanks for the advice. I do have a whole assortment of Forrest sawblades, which by the way are incredible. But even with the Duraline Hi At blade I get some minimal tear out intermitently. And I do have a good aftermarket throat plate. But it is a bit worn, a little wider than the blade. I've been meaning to make a new set. I did manage to get the blade in the scoring unit cranked up high enough, but the scoring saw blade is still below the table top.
It is very rare that I have a plywood part that will the edges showing on both sides. Are these door panels going to be set in a frame? or is it just a piece of plywood mounted on hinges? Obviously if the ply is to be inset into a frame the tearout is not a concern.
If you are using a good blade and a decient throat plate than I would blame the cheep plywood. I have bought crap plywood from home depot that would splinter no matter what. However premium quality ply has thicker veneers and better glue (I guess). If you really want perfection you have to score cut with a knife then cut right up to it. It is a Major PITA.
I have also been interested that scoring attatchment, your experiences are enlightening. Check on Woodnet http://www.forums.woodnet.net there are a lot of "gadget guys" there I bet someone there has used it.
Good luck,
Mike
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