hard maple $5.50bf
walnut $6.25bf
cherry $6.25bf
ash $2.30bf
red oak $3.25bf
I’m not sure of the grading on the walnut and cherry.
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sam,
Around here, central Kentucky, I get walnut for $2.90, ASH $2.25, HARD MAPLE $2.90, CHERRY $3.90, and red or white oak for $2.40. I can get curly maple for $4.20. All prices are for 4/4 fas, 8'-16' long and random widths from 4"- 10" wide. I think you need to shop some more. Go to http://www.woodfinder.com and look. Beat the bushes. You can beat those prices. Hope this helps. If you want #1 common, it's a lot cheaper. Lots of times 4' shorts are also.
You going to hit the waterslide at Cedar Point this weekend?
Steve
There are two secrets to keeping one's wife happy.
1. Let her think she's having her own way.
2. Let her have her own way. President Lyndon Baines Johnson
Edited 2/15/2007 10:54 pm ET by fussy
Wood prices vary a lot by area. In the San Francisco bay area those would be very good prices. I am always envious of the prices people pay for wood in places like Kentucky and the like.
Troy
I'm in Massachusetts and shop wood pretty carefully. Those prices are about standard. I would love to know how the gentleman from Kentucky gets the prices he quoted. Does his supplier ship? PMM
pmmatty,
The prices I quoted are straight from the price list given me at the yard. The prices are for rough lumber, of course. They are a large operation, very particular about the logs the buy, and quite knowledgeable. They let me pick through as long as I straighten up the mess, and once, the yard manager dug through several hundred feet of oak to find the board he thought I needed. He was right.
The place is Harold White Lumber, Inc. 2910 Flemingsburg Road, Morehead, Ky. 40351. (606) 784-8158. Open 7-4:30 mon-thur, 7-3:30 fri, and 7-11:00am sat. Don't know if they ship ups or not. Call and ask for Kathy. She knows everything
Only problem is they don't do much quartersawing. Too expensive. Still, a great place. Hope this helps.
Steve
There are two secrets to keeping one's wife happy.
1. Let her think she's having her own way.
2. Let her have her own way. President Lyndon Baines Johnson
fussy:
thanks for the information on harold white lumber. I will give them a call next week.
PMM
pmmatty,
Hope it works out. I found teak at http://www.cocoboloinc.com at----drum roll please---$6.00/bf for 4/4 fas rgh, and $7.00/bf 8/4! And that's unheard of. Another good one is http://www.hardwoodlumberagent.com. Have fun.
SteveThere are two secrets to keeping one's wife happy.
1. Let her think she's having her own way.
2. Let her have her own way. President Lyndon Baines Johnson
Maybe.
There is a lot more to buying hardwood than price per bf.
I have two sources locally; a sawmill, and a furniture factory that will sell from stock.
At the furniture factory I pay about the same prices you quoted, but I get great selection, all wood is surfaced, high grade, and the people are very knowledgeable and helpful because they are woodworkers.
At the sawmill, I pay about 1/2 price per board food but it is rough cut so selection is often difficult. It involves a lot more work (and waste) after I get it to the shop.
Who's got the bet price? You make the call.
Is your sawmill lumber dried?
We have both types. Several of the mills have kilns and dry their own lumber, while others who do a lot of contract cutting just offer green wood. There really is no standard around here--just a lot of small operators who have found a niche servicing the huge number of woodland owners and woodworking operations in this area.
I see you're in Sandusky. The red oak and ash prices seem pretty decent - the same as I pay at the cheapest lumber yard sources in the Twin Cities. There are cheaper deals at sawmills but the waste factor is higher. And at the lumber yard I can pick my own stuff.
The walnut, cherry, and maple prices seem a little high in relation to the oak and ash, but there's always local variations.
The answer depends on where you live and how the stock is prep'd. In Southern Maine, I pay the following for 4/4 rough sawn:
Hard Maple: 4/4 FAS RGH $4.80
Walnut: 4/4 FAS RGH $5.85
Cherry: 4/4 FAS RGH $6.30
Ash: 4/4 FAS RGH $2.25
Red Oak: 4/4 FAS RGH $3.20
Add as much as $0.60 per for S3S. Add as much as $1.00 for stock wider than 9 inches. Add as much as $1.00 for curly Maple and/or Cherry.
The upside is I'm buying quality wood. I can spend all day sorting the stacks, if need be. Plenty of yard help. Occasional deals. Volume discounts. Discounts for shorts. Etc.
Beachfarm: Where in Southern Maine do you get your wood?
Actually, I get it over the border in Southern New Hampshire - Highland Hardwoods.
What are you fellows seeing or what would yu expect to see for planed, kiln-dried q-sawn white oak as follows:1) 4/4 12 ft long, between 10 and 26 inches wide2) 8/4 12 feet long between 4 and 6 inches wide
I currently pay $3.50 for 8/4 by 10 feet long for any width up to 10 inches. Boards are surfaced on 3 sides. I don't have prices on wider stock but would guess maybe 50 cents per bf more.
Edited 2/16/2007 11:48 am ET by ajoe
Interesting. Just to confirm, is the oak you are buying quartersawn?
I can't say with 100% certainty because I never asked the supplier, but I am quite sure that it is quartersawn or riftsawn. With the cutting patterns they use around here, I find it very hard to tell the difference.
Joe,The other thing you should know is that this area is a very competitive competitive market for common hardwoods, specifically oak. I have 9 sawmills and 4 hardwood dealers within a 15 minute drive.I recently bought some rough 4/4 white oak (8-10" wide) for $1.35 bf.
Oh, my gosh. Here in Dallas we have two or three hardwood dealers of any consequence, and no sawmills at all. In fact, I doubt that there is a mill of any consequence within 60 miles of here, and such mills as may be are mostly cutting softwood.
Gatcha,Here in southern PA, the only place you find softwood is at the lumber store. All hardwood forests around here. I live on 30 acres of woodland and the only softwood tree is the one my wife planted. That's gotta make huge difference in price between here and there.
I also buy my wood in the Dallas Ft-Worth area. I usually pay prices pretty close to what beachfarm posted. Is this about what you pay?
You know, it has been quite a while since I bought any oak or cherry, so I don't know the prevailing prices here in Big D. The last lumber I bought was teak, which is a different animal altogether. I have oak from my own property in the north, and more to come -- and a certain amount of walnut from my father in law.
Still, the time is coming when I will have to buck up and go buy some which is why I was interested. Where do you buy hardwood in Dallas?
I buy the majority of my wood from Hogan hardwood and mouldings. I also use Sweeney in Ft-Worth. I have never used Curly Woods, but I hear a lot of good things about them. Austin hardwoods is in Dallas, I have never been there, but I was pricing hard maple this morning and they have been the cheapest.
I don't know that 6/4 and 8/4 White Oak is available as finished stock. Never needed it, never looked, never asked. The 8/4 price is for rough stock. 4/4 FAS QTR S3S 3/4" - $5.858/4 FAS QTR RGH - $7.25
That is really close to the prices we pay in the Dallas Ft-Worth area. Surprising that your prices are not much cheaper.
The cost of living and operating a business are part of the deal in New England. We pay more, and are paid more, than just about anywhere else - as a rule.I could (and occasionally do) shop for lower board foot costs but the bulk of my material comes from one yard - including sheet goods. For all but the truly unique, I'm buying bulk, so it's easier (and ultimately, cheaper) to buy from one yard.
I was just surprised because I thought Texans were so far from the source that we paid quiet a bit more than most everyone else. Good to know our prices are not that bad. I hear a lot of people here talking about some really low prices.
Have you looked at Kencraft there in Toledo.
There is also Homestead Hardwoods in Vickery.
I am in the Lima area and buy most all my hardwood from a local sawmill.
Cherry is $5 even right now and poplar is less than $2, I think 1.60 or 1.80. You might look at the phone book for sawmills. you never know what you might find.
haven't been out towards toledo yet. homestead hardwoods is where i got these prices
i'm in ct and those prices look normal to me. not only that, but the cherry and walnut at 8" and over will be a premium above those prices. i think i just paid about $8bf for some 8 plus inch cherry.
If you are in Ohio, nothern part go to Homestead Hardwoods and check their prices they are way lower than you show. They are located in Vickery, Ohio, near Sandusky
these are the prices i just paid as of last saturday. thats why i kinda am wondering about the prices. i know they are better than the internet prices like http://www.internetlumber.com, and http://www.walllumber.com but they aren't as low as some people like yourself tell me they are and were.
I have been buying all my lumber from a place in Wakeman, I am not sure of the name, it is something like White Tail Deer Run the phone is 440-839-2125, They do not deliver but you will be pleasently surprised by his low prices. He makes flooring and moldings etc, and has huge stocks of wood which he sells, straight line rips and sands if you wish. I just bought 4/4 sel. & btr poplar for $1.60 per bd.ft. His soft maple is $2.80 surfaced two sides to 15/16" Hope this helps if you are in Northern Ohio
qtsam2
Compared to the prices I pay that's a major rip off, however I buy rough and green at the mill. I thus cut out all of the middle men (there's at least six and maybe more) by the time it gets to a lumberyard near you.. Each middleman takes his markup and passes it on to the next who also adds his markup..
none of them do it as a non-profit deal. so in effect you could say the prices increase by 50% each time someone touches it.. They add their handeling costs and transportation costs into it as well..
If you shop around you'll find wood at similar discounts. Granted in some locations you can't get some woods but If you buy rough and green trucks run pretty much everywhere in the country. Put a bunker of wood on a set of pallets and you can ship it anyplace and still save money..
The main advantage I see in buying direct from the sawmill before it goes to grading is mill run (which is what that is called) doesn't sort out the really fine pieces and sell them off at a premium.
Out of 50,000 bd.ft I have in my house nearly 10% is wood with character, fiddleback, Burl, crotch wood, reaction wood. wierd wonderful stuff only mother nature can produce. For example I have some birdseye red oak!
I've also got burls 22 inches wide 10 feet long and a full inch thick! What would you have to pay for that? I paid 40 cents a bd.ft. for the burls, 10 cents a bd.ft for the fiddleback maple, some of the wood the sawmill operator just handed me and said here, I know you'll appreciate this..
make friends with a sawmill owner You never know what wonderful deals you'll get!
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