Best-ever Outfeed Table Plans?
monheganjoe
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FW Tools and Shops 2009 features a project, Best-ever Outfeed Table, page 36. Plans for this project were once available from FW, but they are sold out. Has anyone got a set of these plans they’d be willing to sell? Thanks!
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How do they sell out of a pdf?
Best ever outfeed table?? I presume this is for a table saw. There is no such thing, build one that fits your situation. Woodworking requires one to solve problems, this one is not that hard.
I agree
The plans are available on the FWW site ..
https://www.finewoodworking.com/project-guides/shop-projects/best-outfeed-table-for-the-tablesaw
Hi there, and thanks. This link is for the original article, which I do have and saved as a .pdf. What I’m referring to is the full-size plans and cut list that is mentioned in the pdf (see photo). FWW is sold out of these, and they were not produced digitally.
I admire Joe's patience with the responses he received to his straight-forward request to find someone willing to sell him a set of plans that are no longer available for a project he is interested in building.
He had done his research on a project he is interested in building and ran into a roadblock he was hoping this forum could help him with.
I cringe when a legitimate and carefully crafted request for help on this forum is met with responses that imply, in essence, "What a dumb question", while providing advice or comments that don't address the original question.
If you want plans for a certain project, by all means search them out and don't quit.
My response, echoing another, wass simply to say that an out-feed table is a relatively simple project to build even with limited skills and/or tools.
This in no way is meant to disparage anyone from building what they want, on the contrary, it's meant to tell them not to always rely on other peoples plans for a project that is specific to their own needs.
It's sad that some people always think comments are negative when they are not.
I was cringing also. Perhaps not intended to be negative but sure came off that way.
Someone who is or aspires to become a woodworker should not need to rely on someone else's plans for a individualized shop projects. It's that simple.
We've all seen plans or photos of things we might want to make but not having them should not be a deal breaker.
The initial reply by ysu65 nailed it, there is no such thing because everyone's situation is different. It may sound harsh to some but it's true. There is no, one size fits all when it comes to this type of thing. If I had the plans the OP was looking for, I would certainly offer them up. Chances are, the plans in question will need to be changed for each person's shop, saw or situation, so..?
The best ever out-feed table ever is the one I built. It is melamine, has a slot for my QD splitter and has integrated leveling screws. The problem is, it won't fit on anyone elses saw unless they have the exact configuration I do.
I totally agree. I’m not sure I would have handled the condescending response as well as the ongoing defensive replies very well.
I recently made one for a small shop space/small cab. saw. Open cabinet/fixed shelves on wheels with removable top and top measures about 36 x 36. These dims of course could be adjusted. The construction drawings were done on AutoCAD and I would be happy to send you PDFs of those. Reply with an email if interested.
"Full-sized plans" for an outfeed table? Why?
In fact, why does anyone create full-sized plans for any rectilinear project? I can maybe see if you want to trace a shaped part, but what would you need a full-sized drawing of a rectangle for, when a scale drawing gives the same information? Maybe I'm missing something, but what would you do with them even if you had them?
I don't have the plans to sell you but... if you know any contractors or people in the building trades you might be able to use a plotter to print them. Architectural prints are sent digitally and printed in individual offices. Ours prints on 36" wide paper. I have to imagine that would be big enough.
One thing to consider is to use melamine for the top. I have an outfeed table that is 4x8. It allows me to safely buck down a 4x8 sheet of plywood if need be. And wood slides so easily on it. If you do glue ups on it, the glue comes off very easily with a chisel. It cleans very nicely, too. It doubles as my primary work table.
In addition, if I want to use a track saw, I can place of 4x8 sheet of 1 1/2" thick foam board on it, below the plywood for cutting.
Melamine does come in a variety of colors.
"Best ever out feed table . . . " There is no such thing. Do you have a contractor saw, hybrid, 3 hp cabinet, or a 7 hp 12" tool? Do you work in a small basement, mobile unit in a garage, small shop, or a large dedicated facility. Do you make jewelry boxes, end tables, dining tables, or architectural components? Your out feed table depends on your end use. The referenced article is really about storage under the out feed than supporting long boards during a rip cut.
So if your requirements are EXACTLY the same as in the article, then the cut list is what you need. If your requirements are different, then you will adjust accordingly. Woodworking is really problem solving. Could you make a mistake during a build? Yep, we all do, sometimes more than once, and we learn from our efforts (ugh, sometimes). So just have faith in your ability to build something, go for it. Good luck!
I agree. If you look at my shop, the rolling cabinets under each power tool, and the outfeed table have crude shelving underneath but are made with sturdy CDX sheeting--nothing fancy! Does what I want them to do.
That way I get a head start on my hours of work making furniture for others.
Great! On my basic out feed table I store bulk things like paper towels, and stuff for the house. Under the right extension, I have my shave horse and three x/c sleds.
All right, folks, this has gotten way out of hand. I asked a simple question, and in response I got some helpful comments, but also judgmental screeds about solving problems and whatnot. Why? What’s the point? If you want to vent your spleen about such things, including the title of the article itself (not my title, people!), then share your thoughts with FWW, not me. Not sure I will ever post on this forum again.
Hi Joe,
Please don’t let some of the responses prevent you from further postings. I have a lot of full size plans although I have the skills and experience to build most projects without them. Somehow, I find they give me a foundation to start from and have helped me avoid mistakes from time to time. I am not good at visualizing complex projects so plans help in that regard as well. So, these are my reasons for wanting plans (but not for every project) and everyone will have different ones. If I had this plan I would happily send it to you but alas it is not in my collection. I hope you get a copy and that it helps you in building what you need. Happy woodworking.
Since this topic is still going strong, I think I should re-state what I said. I didn't comment at all about using published plans, including an exploded assembly drawing, scale drawings of parts, and a cut list (although you really should check the cut list anyway, since sometimes the dimensions don't add up, as evidenced by the follow-up corrections that are published in the next issue). My general comment, not meant to disparage anyone, was on the "full-size drawings" for rectilinear parts. As I said, full-sized drawings/patterns for curved parts is another matter; for instance, buying a kit of patterns for an Adirondack chair is another matter entirely, those can be cut out and traced onto wood. I just don't understand the concept of a full-sized drawing for any rectilinear part, no matter the size of it. A scaled drawing of the various drawer parts would certainly be helpful to a beginner, but what would you do with full-sized patterns of them? Trace them onto wood? Of course not. Even more absurd, let's say your outfeed table is 4 ft by 6 ft. Do you really want/need a sheet of paper that is larger than that, showing the top of the outfeed table? Again, what would you even do with it?
Here you go, the plans are apparently available from Peachtree, including full-sized drawings, for $19.95:
https://www.ptreeusa.com/plan_shop.html#10090
Tablesaw Outfeed
Fine Woodworking Project Plan
An outfeed table helps make tablesaw operation safer and provides valuable workspace for assembly and finishing. But the space beneath it is often wasted. John White solves that problem with this design, which has a cabinet below it with dedicated storage areas for the rip fence, miter gauge, crosscut sled, blades, and several big drawers for jigs. Best of all, this outfeed table is not difficult to build. The cabinet itself is joined by butt joints held together with screws. The drawers are joined by a rabbetand-groove joint that requires only two tablesaw setups.
SKILL LEVEL: Intermediate
What’s Included:
Extensive full-size and scale drawings
Complete cutlist
FINISHED SIZE: 42-3/16" deep x 53" wide
(height is adjustable)
Item# Description Price Quantity
10090 Tablesaw Outfeed Project Plan $19.95
I love happy endings! :-) Good find, I hope Joe hasn't abandoned the forum before he got a real answer.
I agree, and will add sometimes I don't want to have to think about every detail and just want to copy what the author did exactly. It frees my mind to focus on things like technique and not worry about design. Sometimes that is a better use of my mental energy to become a better woodworker.
And sometimes I just want to build and not think too hard.
A downside to forums is that folks will answer the question they wish you had asked, or the one they have the best answer for, instead of the one you typed in. I try to remind myself that the advice here is often worth exactly what is paid for it, and take advantage of those helpful nuggets when they appear.
Happy trails Joe!
Agree, forums are like any social media, full of good, bad, helpful, indifferent, ignorant, and smart people. The particular penchant for answering questions that weren’t asked, or suggesting things that have already been said to be irrelevant by the original questioner, is common on this and other woodworking and construction forums. Heavy on curmudgeons.
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