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   CRAIGCONEY_M | Oct 27, 2004 07:47am | #1

   try Senco

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   treesmiths | Oct 27, 2004 01:07pm | #2

   Hi Joe,

   I too have a Porter Cable. Notice the flat spot on top of the nailer? Makes a good hammer. This week I just picked up a 3 gun Senco combo at Home Depot for $199.00. It came with a 15 gauge and 18 gauge nailer and a finish stapler. I am impressed so far. The tools are not the latest design and require oiling, but a new 41 model nailer is around $220. and does about the same job as my new 35. This Senco combo is a special purchase and my local store was out of stock within 4 days. You may need to call around to find it.

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   BArnold | Oct 27, 2004 01:19pm | #3

   Joe,

   While working in a couple of cabinet shops, I used both the PC and Senco pin nailers.  Both of them set the pin just below the surface as expected.  There is usually some type of adjustment on nailers to set the depth -- check the directions.

   By the way, when I decided to buy a 23 guage pin nailer for myself, I got one from Harbor Freight. http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=45658  I know a lot of people don't like HF, but I buy from them selectively and have had no problem.  The pin nailer works just fine and costs a fraction of the PC.

   Regards,

   Bill Arnold - Custom Woodcrafting

   Food for Thought: The Ark was built by amateurs; the Titanic by professionals.

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   Dan019 | Oct 27, 2004 09:01pm | #4

   I agree with BA about the HF.

   I did a search on this subject in BT about a month ago when I needed one, and read about the HF (it was probably your post BA) being not to bad for the money.

   I bought it figuring I'll send it back if it's a POS. It turned out to work pretty good. While all the others were posting complaints about the nail not setting deep enough this one worked ok right out of the box. AND it was only about $55 so I bought that and both size of nails they offered. (they only offered 2 sizes)

   I bought it for the price and also because the common fix seemed to be to file down the nose so it would set further. I figured if I file it down and screw it up it'll only be a $55 lesson instead of $200 plus.

   BTW, they only were selling it on line. Our local HF didn't carry it.      Dan 

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   BArnold | Oct 27, 2004 11:27pm | #5

   Dan,

   I had to order mine online as well.  When I asked at the Sarasota store, they said that some items weren't stocked in the stores.  On the pins themselves, I was placing an order on Amazon at the same time, so I got the PC pins in four sizes.

   Actually, a guy I used to work with had bought the HF pin nailer and was very satisfied with it.  Most of the tool purchases I've made at HF were based on input from others who already had the items.  One of the items I really qustioned is the trim router they routinely sell at $20; after one of the guys at the shop let me use his, I got one of my own and then went back later and got another one; I also have a PC trim router, but typically use the HF because it's easier to set up.

   I don't recall posting about the pin nailer before, but my memory isn't what is once was -- or maybe it is -- I don't remember!

   Regards,Bill Arnold - Custom Woodcrafting

   Food for Thought: The Ark was built by amateurs; the Titanic by professionals.

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   Dan019 | Oct 29, 2004 03:16pm | #7

   So the PC pins work with the HF, that's good to know. Didn't know if they were proprietary or not.

   Also good to know about the HF trim router. I got the PC trim router, too. What a POS height adjustment system. May have to check HF out.

   CAG, the HF does have a safety, although you have to remember to put it on manually. FWIW.

   Dan 

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   BArnold | Oct 29, 2004 06:17pm | #8

   "So the PC pins work with the HF..."

   The only difference I've seen between brands of 23 gauge pins is that some are beveled at both ends and some just on one end.

   "I got the PC trim router, too. What a POS height adjustment system...."

   Yep.  I don't care for the PC height adjustment either.  Once it's set, it stays put; just a pain to have to tweak a small adjustment.  The HF has an adjustment similar to the Ryobi -- a geared arrangement with a locknut.

   Regards,Bill Arnold - Custom Woodcrafting

   "I do my own thinking; therefore, I vote for the best person."I will think next Tuesday; therefore, George W. Bush is the only choice!"

   Food for Thought: The Ark was built by amateurs; the Titanic by professionals.

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   CAGIV | Oct 28, 2004 07:51am | #6

   I have the senco, never had a problem with it setting the nails, only thing I don't like about it is the live fire. No saftey, and I imagine one of those sliver size nails in a hand or a thigh would be less then pleasant.

   is the PC live fire?