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   forestgirl | Jul 21, 2004 06:37pm | #1

   Small discussion about this a couple days ago.  See
   http://forums.taunton.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=tp-knots&msg=18546.1

   for opinions on how the various tool lines might be affected.

   forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
   Another proud member of the  "I Rocked With ToolDoc Club" .... :>) 

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   OrchidGuy | Jul 21, 2004 07:40pm | #2

   Hi Walnutburl,

    I read last year when B&D bought DeWalt they wanted to shut it down. Now that they have purchased Delta and Porter-Cable they might want to create a monopoly!

   Those daring young men in their flying machines!

   
   

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   HowardAcheson | Jul 21, 2004 09:18pm | #3

   >>B&D bought DeWalt they wanted to shut it down

   B&D did shut down DeWalt. DeWalt had few products and they were incorporated directly into the B&D line.

   In the mid 1980's the brand name was ressurected when they incorporated the Elu tools they owned in Europe. B&D took what was being marketed as their "Professional Line" colored them yellow and put their marketing department to work. DeWalt brand tools are made in the same plants as their consumer line.Howie.........

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   OrchidGuy | Jul 22, 2004 11:46pm | #10

   Hi Howie,

    The small piece I read last year gave me the impression that B&D was going to make Dewalt disapear from the market completely! Maybe I got the wrong idea somehow.

   Those daring young men in their flying machines!

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   HowardAcheson | Jul 22, 2004 11:51pm | #11

   The DeWalt name did dissappear for a number of years. About the last product I saw was the B&D/DeWalt RAS which was discontinued in the 1970's. The DeWalt name reappeared in the late 1980's as B&D's professional tools. When they first came out, you could only buy the yellow tools at locations catering to the professional (lumberyards, builder suppliers, etc). When B&D built the reputation of the DeWalt brand as being "professional" quality, they began to market them in more consumer oriented stores.Howie.........

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   OrchidGuy | Jul 23, 2004 01:23am | #12

   Now I got you, thanks for the explaination!

   Those daring young men in their flying machines!

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   RoyinMD | Jul 22, 2004 03:18am | #4

   It always seems the larger a company gets the stupider they get.

   Dewalt will always look better on a NASCAR car.

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   SRToolguy | Jul 22, 2004 05:38am | #5

   My personal, gut feeling, (very little fact involved here folks), is that its nice to have these brands back in the hands of a tool company. Black and Decker has had its ups and downs but for what its worth, they are still in business and appear to be getting better at what they do. It will probably take a year or more to complete the turnover and another year before the consumer begins to see the effect of the sale.

   For reasons I can't back with facts because they are just like I said, a gut feeling, I feel better about recommending Delta products now then I did in the past.

   Sincerely;

   The Tool Guy

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   nikkiwood | Jul 22, 2004 08:01am | #6

   I would imagine the logic for B&D is that they do not have a line of stationary tools (Delta) nor spray equipment (Devilbiss -- sp?). But that leaves the PC component , which competes up and down the line with Dewalt. It will be interesting to see how they ultimately position these two lines.

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   Fingrs | Jul 22, 2004 04:08pm | #7

   All I care about is what color their tools will be.  PC has always been an understated gray with black accents while DeWalt was garish yellow with black accents.  I try to keep a color coordinated shop, so before I use a PC tool I put away the Dewalt tools, and vice versa.

   My whole color scheme began to fall apart when I bought my first Jet tool...up to then everything was Delta.  Then I found out you can buy touch-up paint from Delta and the problem was solved, kindof.

   However, do you know how many little cans of that touch-up paint it took to paint a joiner, dust collector and 15" planer?  (Took two coats to cover the off-white color of the Jet stuff)

   Of course, I'm still conflicted about the bright red PC compressor... 

   Maybe I should have two shops... 

   After all, we MUST have our priorities!

1. 
   AlanTurner | Jul 22, 2004 04:56pm | #8

   Lofton,

   There is a real opportunity for you to brand your shop by creating your own color. Purple perhaps? Perhaps fuscia? Since we are leaning towards flowers, a logo might as well be included, such a a green wantering vine. Let me know if you want to borrow some spray equip.

   BTW, did you get the Omer yet? Is it wonderful?

   AlanAlan

   http://www.alanturnerfurnituremaker.com

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   Fingrs | Jul 22, 2004 07:36pm | #9

   Alan,

   Remind me not to let you redecorate my house.

   I continue to fantasize about how great the Omer is going to be, but alas, those fantasies have not yet been validated.  [Plain english: The damned thing isn't here yet!]. 

   Towards the end of the semester I tend to get a little goofy.

   Lofton

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   toolmiser | Jul 23, 2004 05:32am | #13

   Maybe I am showing my age, but during the 70's, Rockwell (Porter Cable) had a consumer line of tools that were painted yellow.  What goes around comes around!

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   Fingrs | Jul 23, 2004 05:59am | #14

   You're probably right, Mick, but in the 70s I was into Craftsman tools, or more precisely, craftswomen...I think.