I broke my vise. It is hard to do but I managed to do it. It is a large Record front vise with the quick release. It is 10 or 12 years old. I managed to drop my bench on it. As dumb as it sounds, it wasn’t that bad. I was using a jack to lift the bench, one side at a time, so I could shorten the legs. I got one side a little too high and over it went, landing on the vice handle.
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The handle bent a little but the vice looks ok. It sill works for closing, and the quick release still works. However, the vise no longer opens when I turn the handle. I have to spin the handle to free it up then grab the jaw and pull it open. I have looked at it several times and nothing looks broken, missing our out of place. I do not see how the jaw is locked to the screw. I must be missing something.
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Does anyone have an idea what I may have broken? Are parts for Record vises available? I have ask around and not found anyone locally who works on vises. Are there any shops that repair vises or should I just replace it?
Bob t.
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You shouldn't need any parts. Don't think you would have much luck finding them anyway. The bottom split nut is not engaging the threads. A person who works with metal such as a machine shop or some welding shop with machine skills should be able to fix it up. Even an auto mechanic should be able to figure it out. They should be able to think out of the box so to speak. If they are the kind that only knows how to replace parts they are not the one. Something may be just a bit bent .I definitely think it's fixable.
Hmmm. I just went down and looked at mine -- I was expecting to see some sort of pin and washer setup to keep the front vice jaw attached to the screw, but, nope. Nada. Nothin'. It may be just pressed into a bearing in the jaw. ???
But: when you back the screw out, does it "unscrew" from the vice? (As in, does the handle move away from the bench and move out through the front jaw?) Do you see any sign of busted iron inside (or outside) the vice around the screw?
Mike Hennessy
Pittsburgh, PA
You might be right. The other possibility is it might be braised to the handle mount..A machinist should be able to sort it out.BB
Yes, when I unscrew it the handle moves out from the vise. The front jaw just does not move with it and I don't see anything that looks like it holds the front jaw on the screw. Woodcraft is open late tonight and I am going to stop by raft and look at one that in not mounted to a bench and see if I can find the bottom split nut Rickl mentioned.
Or, you may want to unscrew it all the way out and see what's going on in the front jaw where the screw goes through.
Mike HennessyPittsburgh, PA
Stopped by Woodcraft and took a good look at both a Record they have mounted on a bench and a copy of one. Whatever mechanism they use to keep the front jaw attached to the screw is incased in the Jaw casting. There are no nuts, bolts or even openings in the cast iron. I unscrewed mine and pushed the front jaw in and I can see is the screw. Whatever it is, it is well hidden. The guys at woodcraft told me they never heard of anyone having a problem with a Record vice. Guess not many people drop there benches on them.
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I am getting ready to build a new bench so I will probably get another vise for my primary bench vise and use this as a secondary vise on another table.
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Thanks for your input on this one.
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Bob T.
"Whatever mechanism they use to keep the front jaw attached to the screw is incased in the Jaw casting. There are no nuts, bolts or even openings in the cast iron. I unscrewed mine and pushed the front jaw in and I can see is the screw. Whatever it is, it is well hidden."
Exactly -- which is why I suspect it is a press fitting of some sort.
Mike HennessyPittsburgh, PA
It may be a split washer. Get a washer or make one that will fit the small diameter of the thread. Does not have to be a tight fit. Cut the washer in half so it looks like a C.
Clean the washer and the vice casting of dust. Attach the washers to the jaw then to the vice casting, use jb weld on metal parts. This is an epoxy you can get at any hardware store.
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