Can I frame this enclosure better?
kaitlyn2004
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I took this pic for reference (obviously the 2×4’s + clamps are just to rough-in some idea.
https://imgur.com/a/kEwYVoS
The right side (mostly cut off) is a finished and installed shelf system. It can’t move over any more. I changed my plans for that mid-way through, putting the vertical supports on the outside to give a fully open front for putting in/taking out storage bins. Unfortunately, that cuts off another ~2″ from the planned total width.
My plan is to build a shelf/table across the bins (leave the front open), have a pegboard right side and (at least, originally) a bedboard left side too. Either hooks, more shelving, something up above.
Technically, as I have it, it works. However – it’s a VERY tight fit against the door when it opens. That vertical support on the left sort of makes it feel even more enclosed if I were to enter/exit through that door.
My two ideas to move forward are:
– Keep the standard rectangle frame as-is, and deal with it… it fits.
– Keep that vertical support, but move in the left side a bit so the shelf surface area would probably move in 3-5″, and the vertical support is outside the frame a bit more, mostly connecting only to the horizontal support braces. (the ones running front to back would connect to this horizontal bar)
Do I have other options? I guess I could also plan for lighter duty on this side and move smaller than 2×4, but that’s shaving minimal space.
Is there a realistic way I could move the existing vertical support in a bit (the wheels on the bins are wider than the frame). What if I cut off the bottom leg section below the bottom shelf and moved it in 2″ to sit right below the corner of the shelf? That would free up 2″ immediately. The remainder of that vertical brace wouldn’t be sitting on the floor though, instead connected to the bottom shelf which is sitting on the leg.
Sorry if that was a bit jumbled. Hopefully the problem is evident and you guys have some better ideas to solve this!
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I would screw a metal bracket to the ceiling at the left front corner of the shelf you want over the bins, then use threaded rod from the ceiling to your shelf. Then you don't need anything coming up from the floor. It will hold less weight than a 2x4 to the floor, but it should be more than enough, as long as you don't use it for your anvil collection.
A couple of examples, if the links work:
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Oatey-Steel-Threaded-Rod/1001223378
https://images.app.goo.gl/HsAEcqBdiK7tTw5B9
I cant quite figure out what the problem is. What exactly is your end-goal? You want to have a shelf above the bins but cant support it without the long vertical stud on the outside corner which is in your way? Is that it? How about making it a stand-alone four legged bench?
Yeah, the vertical post off to the left/distance, while technically could work there, is an extremely tight fit for allowing the door to open. Wondering if I could support/brace the eventual tabletop that'll cover the bins an alternative way and saving some of the space on that edge side.
Assuming not too much weight on the shelf, how about attaching vertical studs to the back wall (I realize it doesnt match the shelves you already made that way) and cantilever a support of the new shelf from the wall side. But even its just the shelf and not the left post, it seems like it will still be in the way of the door. As far as pegboard, skateboard, etc., you could mount that to the back wall. If you put something on the left side, you create an inaccessible dark space in the corner. Consider a neater Gladiator-type system as well.
Depending on what is going to be setting on the shelf you could move your vertical support to the right by 18-24 inches to where it sits between the green and blue bins and cantilever your shelf off of that. Build up some extra support under the shelf like 8-12 inch centers or so. That would give you the feeling of a more open space near the door and should be substantial enough. You could go a step further as John_C2 said and attach a threaded rod from the ceiling to the cantilevered shelf for peace of mind.
Make the bottom shelf on the right shorter, move the post and shift all the bins over.
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