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No, that's cheating - you still have to be able to park two cars inside the garage!
Holy Moly who wuda thunk?, Cars in the garage, is that what the big door is for?
And to think I just been opening it up to clear out all the dust with the leaf blower!!!
In '86, we bought SWMBO a full sized Ford Bronco. At that time, we had one of those "swing-up" garage doors and the Bronco was maybe 1" too tall to get under the door.
I told her that she would have to leave the Bronco in the driveway until "I figured something out" so she could use the garage again. Somehow, several years passed without a solution and the garage sorta morphed into a shop.
The swing up door was replaced with a rollup door in the early 90's and the Bronco was traded off in '97, but the precedent had been established. She mentioned it a couple of years ago and I told her she could park in the garage again whenever she wanted to. She would just have to make a hard left at the table saw and an quick right at the band saw. No problem, right?? - lol
Well as long we're measuring our Johnsons so to speak, I think I have you all beat, let's see:
2 1/2 car garage by modern track house standards w/
2 HP D/C, (2) 6 ft benches w/ 10" SCMS station in between them, 30 gal compressor & Fein vac underneath, a chocked-full Crapsman roll away, router table, sanding station w/ 6x48 sander and Ridgid spindle sander, Foley planer, 14" bandsaw, Jet cabinet saw w/ 50" fence, 17" drill press, 6" Jointer, plus wall mounted clamp and material racks and cabinets with 20-30 portable power tools, nailers, etc, ceiling mounted air cleaner and fan, a gotta be 30-40 year old garage door opener, the wife's laundry equipment, 50 gal water heater, water softener and room to park my sweet '65 ElCamino and open the door far enough to extracate my svelt 295# w/o dinging it on the bench.
And Oh, yeah the wife's '02 Passat V6 has slept in the driveway since it was new :)
PS: Dave45 did the '86s still have the dreaded 351M variable venturi POS under the hood or the fuel inj? The best thing that ever happened to my '83 was the day my little bro smoked that ping maker @ 26k and 2 years old. I went outlaw w/ a 400hp real Windsor and beefed the C6. Drove the crap out of it on and off road another 11 years, then it was my daughter's first car (dubbed the Beast) for another 2 yrs. When Smog II passed in Calif I couldn't get it back-door smogged at Midnight Auto anymore so I donated it to charity. BTW it slept in the garage the Friday night I brought it home. The next day I did a 4" body lift and put 33s on it. In a lot of ways it was the best vehicle I've ever owned.
PSS: Is your '45' degrees, rpm or caliber?John O'Connell - JKO Handcrafted Woodworking
The more things change ...
We trained hard, but it seemed that every time we were beginning to form up into teams, we would be reorganized. I was to learn later in life that we tend to meet any new situation by reorganizing; and a wonderful method it can be for creating the illusion of progress while producing confusion, inefficiency, and demoralization.
Petronious Arbiter, 210 BC
I've got a 8' high door from day one so I can't use that one. You know, come to think of it, I'm only using the lower 3' of the door, so as I see it MDW (My dear wife), can use a full 5' of the opening, the upper 5'. I'll have to run that one past her<G>.
Cardiac.
Garages are the new living rooms, you wouldn't park your car in your living room would you?
The first question is what is the standard garage in your area? My pops has a 'standard' two car garage that I could fit two real trucks in as well as all my power tools. My 'standard' garage is barely big enough for my Jeep liberty and Cavalier!
The second question is how many of those 45 power tools are big enough to fall into the stationary tool catagory, and how many are hand power tools. I've got upwards of 20 hand tools, but they're so small and hidden I sometimes have to search for them. It's always obvious where the table saw, jointer or lathe is.
The third question what cars are they? I could probably fit two of those (not-so) smart cars in my garage with the current open space.
Finally how accesible are your machines? I've seen some pretty cool garages, guys with tables that fold down from the wall etc.
45 power tools? Lets see cordless drill (x2), corded drill (x2), circular saw, jig saw (x2), various sanders (x5), router (x2), trim router, biscuit joiner, table saw, jointer, drill press, lathe, dust collector, air compressor, miter saw (x2, ones leaving soon), band saw, planer, shop vac...
Post some pictures...
BUSTER-2
GUY -0
BONUS POINTS SHOULD ALSO BE GIVEN FOR THE WIFE THING!
I can't believe you counted them,
Lee
Let us see pictures of the cars.
I added a garage-sized building to our garageless property about five years ago. It has no overhead door, and no concrete floors.
Gareages? We don't need no stinking garages!
LOL
Support our Troops. Bring them home. Now. And pray that at least some of the buildings in the green zone have flat roofs, with a stairway.
Does that mean you have to actually clean up your shop every time you're done working in there? Where do the half-finished projects go when you move on to another? I don't like it already!
Edited 3/7/2007 10:27 pm ET by ThreePuttJoe
Guy,
Actually, I think keeping a car in the garage is an un-American activity! For one thing, if you still have room for 2 cars in there AND all your tools and lumber, you are obviously not supporting the economy or not supporting your fellow woodworkers' dreams by not having enough STUFF! Now that word has gotten out about your un-patriotic and miserly attitude, we can't point to you and whine to our wives "but Guy has one!"
You've let us all down, son.
Steve
There are two secrets to keeping one's wife happy.
1. Let her think she's having her own way.
2. Let her have her own way. President Lyndon Baines Johnson
I live in Ottawa, Ontario. We have something called Winter here. I thought I had experienced "winter" as I grew up in the hills of West Virginia and we usually had a few days every "winter" where the temp dropped below 0. Sometimes we would get 8-10" of snow on the ground at any one time! I didn't have a clue! This morning, the temp was -40 with wind chill, and it's been like this (off and on) since mid-January. We also get a significant amount of snow, (average about 8 feet every Winter) and the city buys salt in 500-ton lots. Any car older than 5 years will invariably have rust starting to show, and if you see a 10-year old car that isn't a rusted hulk you can bet it came from either British Columbia or the southern US. I mention this only to say that one of the common myths around here is that putting a car into a garage (especially if it's heated) accelerates the rusting process through repeated heating and thawing. I don't know if it's true, but my wife doesn't like the idea of her MDX rusting so it sits in the driveway all winter. There hasn't been a car in my 2-car garage for 18 years!Ron
Edited 3/8/2007 7:24 pm ET by RonInOttawa
Ron,
Winter? The last time I was in Ottawa, a friend took me ice fishing. I've never been so cold in my life! That was in July. And by the way, the wind chill only counts if you're naked--so put some clothes on before you go out.
Stay warm. Summer's right around the corner (Aug. 1 -- Aug. 3).
SteveThere are two secrets to keeping one's wife happy.
1. Let her think she's having her own way.
2. Let her have her own way. President Lyndon Baines Johnson
Steve, I could set you up with my relatives in Argentia, Newfoundland to catch some codfish. Even in July you might cook eggs on the beach rocks but the water is NOT the gulf stream , it's the Labrador current and it will turn you blue in 3 min. Paddy
Paddy,
When we went to England years ago, my daughters had never seen the ocean (when we flew over, it was dark), so when we arrived at the North Sea shore at Bridlington, they wanted to wade in (this was August). Being the solicitous father that I am, I told them to doff their shoes, roll up their jeans, and have at it (this is the NORTH Sea, mind you). As you would expect, there was a lot of squealing and chattering of teeth, but being Kentucky girls, they stayed at it for a respectable, but not too dangerous amount of time. While they were enjoying? themselves, a elderly British couple came along dressed in long coats, gloves, scarves, mukluks, etc. (this was August). They stopped to watch the girls, and in disgust, the gentleman muttered "Bloody child abuse it is!". I replied, "Yeah, but they'll behave the rest of the trip." He walked off muttering "Bloody damned Americans!"
That aside, are the Cod coming back yet? We've got to start watching what we take out (and what we put in) the oceans. I'll bet that's a lovely place.
How's the move to Tennessee looking?
SteveThere are two secrets to keeping one's wife happy.
1. Let her think she's having her own way.
2. Let her have her own way. President Lyndon Baines Johnson
OK, So what about the boat, Where do you put it?
Smart cars or Dinky toys? <G>
A Ford Festiva and an Isetta count as one car, sorry.
Do you have an Isetta?
I don't, but someone I know collects cars and, along with his brother, the two have (or had) eight of them at one time."I cut this piece four times and it's still too short."
Edited 3/8/2007 9:24 am by highfigh
Guy: My shop is in a garage built for one model T. It was put together by who ever built the house using scraps for the most part. Some of the interior sheathing is 2 or 4 foot pieces. They didn't bother with a foundation, it just sits on the ground. The floor is cocreate, in several pours, non of which are level with the others. A modern car would not fit even if it could hop over the cinderblock garden boxes. Other then all that I spend most of my free time happily turning lumber into dust and shavings and a bit of finished projects.
Duke
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Standard 2 car garage. I did have to re-arrange things a couple of times.
Three workbenches
1 with buffer, grinder, scroll saw, and several bolts bins
1 for actually working on
1 smaller one that holds my tool chest
stand with 4" and 1" inch belt sanders
14" band saw
9" radial arm saw with 12" miter saw that sits on the ras table
floor standing drill press
Ridgid 13 planner.
roll around for sheet goods
roll around router table. lives under one of the workbenches when not in use
industrial size squirrel cage fan on castors. lives under one of the workbenches when not in use
1236 lathe
large storage cabinet for flammables, sandpaper, and other stuff
bookcase style shelving
shelving hanging from wall
wood storage 8'x3' from floor to ceiling
assorted power hand tools - ROS, jigsaw, drill, you know
assorted non-powered hand tools - 4, 5, 7, block, and rabbit hand planes, spoke shaves, you know
assorted jigs
2 shop vacs for dust control
2 motorcycles
Ford Focus station wagon
I do have to pull the Focus out to use the band saw, ras/miter saws
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