Canadian Carpenters better that American
Wilson504 | Posted in General Discussion on
There,
Was reading the posts about this place being boring.
Maybe this will get the blood flowing.
PS: Canadian here. And will challenge
all questions…..eh??? LMAO
Replies
Hmm, maybe try that over at breaktime. They're a little more of the firebrand type, don'cha know.
You know you could be right. I'm certain you're better than I am, (but that's not saying very much)
Better what Dave?
Better spellers? Better Writers? Better trolls?
Kanuk eh!
Dave, What country produced the Stanley cup champion last season???? EAT ME!!!!!
Don't know how hockey figures into this thread (the main topic of which I'm not getting into), but since you opend this up......the Olympics, everyones best and brightest one on one.....shall we review the results? In the mens? In the womens? Don't want to? Didn't think so.cabinetmaker/college instructor. Cape Breton, N.S
I have to admit, the Canadians make a better igloos then we do, and their bacon is awesome. About woodwork, haven't a clue.
Don
Adrian
I wasn't aware they have a WoodWorking Olympics! What were the results? he..he.. (Couldn't resist) Just kiddin'..
I think I'll leave this to the U.S.A. carpentry team. Gotta feelin' they'll handle it with the same efficiency they use on the job-site. Gotta get back to the shop. I'll just listen for the American National Anthem off in the distance. Hey guys and gals, hope the GOLD matches the color scheme in your shop. Grin<>
sarge..jt
As a yankee doodle woodpecker who has lived in Canada for the past 20 years, I'm gonna take a shot...
A carpenter is a carpenter...nationality don't matter.
That said Canadians:
are some of the finest folks I've ever met on this planet
live in one of the best countries on this earth and by the time they figure that out, Uncle Sam will have them by the economic short and curlies
have their choice of fine beer as opposed to the horse pis they sell in the states
cheers,
silver
Good beer is where you find it, Silver. Only the big breweries make horse pis. The micros make some damn fine beer and ale. I don't drink no horse pis.
That said, I'd have to agree that Canadians are fine people, despite my limited exposure to them. The times I have traveled in Canada, I have found them friendly, couteous, kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty....oops! That's the Boy Scout pledge - sorry. Anyhow, they're really nice folks.
I have a good friend here who has done the opposite. He is a transplanted Canadian, WW2 vet (he lied about his and joined up at 16). A truely patriotic American of Canadian citizenship.
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Lee in Cave Junction, Oregon
On the Redwood Highway
Edited 10/19/2002 3:07:58 PM ET by Lee
Silver -
I don't know what part of the country (or what country for that matter) you live in, but if you want beer, you need to re-locate to the Pacific Northwest. A lot of the crafted beers in our area are only soled on site in the brewpubs where they're made.
Now don't no one go get the idea that our superior libations lead to superior craftsmanship - no self respecting web-footed northwesterner woodworker would think of partaking of alchohol before or during shop time. Once the shops cleaned up and shut down for the day or evening - that's another story!!
Dennis in Bellevue WA
[email protected]
I rarely post on here, just lurk, as every question I can think of gets asked sooner or later. I am Canadian, and I want to go on record as saying I have had some Americam beer from smaller brewererys, and it was fine. I like a lot of American wine as well though the exchange rate is pushing the price off the meter.
> ....I am Canadian, and I want to go on record as saying I
have had some Americam beer from smaller brewererys, and it was fine.
......
All meant tongue in cheek, Seaumas. Why, I even had some beer in Scotland that was to my liking!!
Dennis in Bellevue WA
[email protected]
I like Canada, they have Great Beer, there girls are cute, love there Canadian back bacon and those little black squirrels are just sooo cute..and they keep there citys nice and clean, you dont see litter thrown all over there....
Just my 2 cents worth..<G> ToolDoc
Hey
Dey got some good carpenters from what I hear too. (at least or so I've been told)
I'm with you on every point, doc. Wish I could get to Vancouver.. hear it's a fun place.
bill
I must say, I don't consider a hockey game complete until I've flattened at least one Canadien Have also not met the canuck that can keep up with my woodworking either. Eat me frogboy!
One more thing carpenter boy. If you wish to compare Canadian carpenters with the pros down here step down a few notches as this is a Fine woodworking forum. See Norm. If you were worth a damm, you would be here blocking traffic with your fellow Canadian pigdogs instead of that frozen tundra! Your friend,Drew
Oh, boy!
If your posts are intended as tongue in cheek, well, I'll just quietly sit here and feel a little sorry that that's the best attempt at humour you can manage. I'm stretching things by calling it humour.
If they're serious, I'll just let 'em stand as an example of some pretty twisted thinking. Tell you what, though....try that 'pigdog' line on me in person someday.
I specifically said I wasn't commenting on the Canadian vs American 'carpenter' thing....BTW, I'm a cabinetmaker, not a carpenter. As far as 'if I was worth a damn, I'd be down there'....you're not really that much of an idiot, are you? Huh?
No, I was talking about hockey.....gold in mens, gold in womens.....good games both, BTW, and your teams did a good job. I can't help it if you're buying the NHL, but at least this go round, my people did a little better, and I'm proud of them.cabinetmaker/college instructor. Cape Breton, N.S
Adrian, You Missed the point by MILES!!!! (kilometers) Read the initial post again! I challenged the man who started this thread. You answered. Most of my teamates on my over 40 hockey team are Canadians.Some are Swedes,Some are Finns And some are Americans. The "Pigdog" statement is a theft from a Monty Python movie and I would not be hesitant to repeat it to your face as it was a joke! The stated intention of this thread was to "get the blood flowing" but lighten up before you have a heart attack!!!!!. Drew Nyman-Palm Beach Florida---"Where the weather is hot and the beer is cold"
I apologise if I took you wrong....but check....you 'replied' specifically to me, not to the guy that started the thread.....changes the whole context.cabinetmaker/college instructor. Cape Breton, N.S
Yeah, the Red Wings won the Stanley Cup last year but half the Red Wings are Canadian and the other half are Swedes and Russians. Only 2 players on the team are from the USA and their fathers are Canadian.
better check your stats aye!!!
No need, he sent a stat that was not the final. Anyway according to his Democratic friends he is wrong.
Yea Dave thats the kind of question the boys in the Shed would love to answer or talk to ya about....
At Darkworks cut to size made to burn......Putty isnt a option
Edited 10/19/2002 11:56:05 AM ET by Ron Teti
????????? What on earth is this supposed to be?
Not sure I really want to get into this with a serious comment but here goes. Last winter, my wife and I purchased a summer home in Atlantic Canada. The place needs a lot work and I just got back to the States after several months of demolition and rough carpentry (in real life, I'm a cabinetmaker and only play at carpentry occasionally).
The two Canadian carpenters I was working with were pretty impressive. Many of them got their start at the local boat works and I think that explains a lot about their skills. Where nothing is 90 degrees you need to develop a keen eye and, with all of the unusual angles, you're required to master hand tools very early. Also, after you've moved a 65' fishing boat around the boat yard, jacking up a house and replacing rotten sills, seems like child's play.
These carpenters are skilled at building the traditional local variation of the "salt-box" house and that means mastering some rather complex skills. They build all their doors and windows fom scratch and mill their own moldings and trim to match traditional styles. One of these carpenters even logs during the winter months and then mills his own lumber. It may be that in these rural villages you just need to wear a lot of hats to survive. Anyway, not sure who's better but these guys were pretty good.
If Canada is the place to be..............why are there so many Canadians on my golf course in yhe winter???????
Jim in FL
Because you scattered dollar bills over the course?
*ducking*
R
Rich: i'v met some really nice folks that come down here for the winter golfing, but how do they get so good at it?? Course I guess i'm migratory too as we go to MI for the summers.
Jim
I guess instead of politics you could talk about how American tools are bigger than Canadian tools??
PlaneWood by Mike_in_KatyPlaneWood
Geese are migratory?
It's been a couple of years now, and I personally believe canadian are a tool of europe. It's ok, but I stopped buying thier products a long time ago. Thier country is where the terrorist are coming from and they don't want to surrender thier sovernty (heard that in a news article). I worked in television for years and they are government subsidized, distroying our industries one by one, like our car industry. They are currently being penelnized 29% on constuction lumber imports for the same reason, government subsidizing. There socalists and like china they depend on us, Canadians being directly need straightening out by not buying there products and sending thier manufacurers (and ours) bad emails as often as we can. They are closing american auto plants not plants in cheaper countries.
They are not creative, they are leaches. the truth should hurt.
john g
That's funny, John. Best chortle of the night. There are millions that would argue with a straight face that all the most dedicated and frightening terrorists come out of the US. Slainte.Some stuff I've made.
YOu gOt a weird namE and nO masterY oF the enGlIsH LaGuaGe. ThaT Don'T MaKe You DuMb, OK.
LIKE the sherrif said, your message was illegible. WHAT?
john g
John,
Yeah, boy you got them Canadians pegged right!
Why, I hear that's where all the purple helicopters are based. They're also harboring one-worlders, aliens, and commies. They have a plot to blow up our oil lines and they're also in cahoots with Mexico to ruin our economy. Everyone knows that.
I really like the way you think. And don't you believe it when people call you a wierd redneck and say you have the most stupid a.s.s. ideas they ever heard. You show them what this country is made of, man.
And I like the way you spell, too. Where can I learn to spell like that?
R
Bro. I am from souther cal. REDneck?????
I'm a Chicano> yeh I'm a white boy But. WE laugh about mexico and the fact that there ain't no constitution in mexico. If you don't mix in in mexico, especially in the middle of nowhere, you just disapear. got to look out for those federales man. think about it. I thinks it best you not clash too much with the christians dude, My mom actually told me she gave a guy #### for trying to act like a mexican, he was a arab and she told him it was not happening, all the different states are very different and they are have different slags etc.
I am a decendent of people who lived and live in texas
Zapatas famos saying
I would rather die on my feet fighting. than live my life on my knees.
an american, sounds like one! huh!!
I'm sure Thats not exact But its close.
john g
Thier country is where the terrorist are coming from and they don't want to surrender thier sovernty (heard that in a news article)
John, should've the U.S. bombed Canada instead of Afghanistan?
(dang....one fo them has figured out the masterplan.....clearly a superior intellect. I must consult my secret masters in Europe, or all is lost)cabinetmaker/college instructor. Cape Breton, N.S
john
I disagree with your comments. I sold over $3000 worth of American made merchadise to a regular Canadian customer today in Ont. I appreciate his business and will continue to sell to him each week when he calls. He has never asked for discounts or any special favors. Wish I had more customers with his positive approach.
BTW, you might be reminded that Canada has fought beside us in WWI, WWII, Korea and Desert Storm. Being a combat veteran, I don't forget that kind of loyal dedication. It would take a little something more concrete for me to be convinced your statements were valid..
sarge..jt
Sarge,
I agree with your last sentiment. It is interesting that the Candians got it right in WWI and WWII before we did. When we did show leadership we went to Vietnam where the conflict per the grunts was about taking care of your buddies rather then any polictical or idealistic cause. God, I hope were not heading back down the road.
Don
Don
I also hope we don't make the same mistakes. Got a feelin' the public won't let it happen this time. Just a feelin', though. I can't predict what will happen in the situation we are in now. Just have faith that the outcome will be just.
sarge..jt
There is a madman who holds a high public office right now who achieved his position by means other than popular vote who is also presently a threat to the safety of the entire world right now...
George W. Bush.
BTW...Americans forget where all those planes on 9/11 were diverted to because they were deemed too much of a threat to land in the states...that place would be Canada. Don't hurt to have friends like that...IMHO
silver
Silver,
I didn't vote for him, and would not again, but he was elected by popular vote and is the legal and duly elected President of the United States. He's my President and your President.
A madman, a threat to the safety of the entire world? You are certainly entitled to your opinions. But in voicing such an extreme condemnation, others may wonder if you don't fall under the first category you've mentioned.
The situations he's dealing with would make your mind boggle (and mine). You really haven't a clue as to the information he has and the dangers he's dealing with. He is not operating in a vacuum. For the present time, I think we have reasonable and intelligent people at the controls. I don't think that we are a threat to anybody. Just the opposite.
R
Edited 10/24/2002 2:56:57 PM ET by Rich Rose
Canada makes cars?
Silver,
I did vote for GWB and would and will again. He not only won a legitimate election, he survived a challenge to that voting process that came clear out of outer space. I think he is doing a great job and support him and his programs in every way.
And, no, I am not a party line Republican. I am regestered Libertarian, and, if anything, would go even further than GWB in cutting taxes and reducing the size of the Federal Government.
The popular vote is NOT the criterion in the US, but the Electoral College. As an expatriate US citizen you should know that.
The electoral process is designed this way for a reason. I suggest a reading of the founding father's writings discussing the formation of the fledgling government. "The Federalist Papaers" would be an excellent starting place.
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Lee in Cave Junction, Oregon
On the Redwood Highway
Edited 10/24/2002 4:10:28 PM ET by Lee
Lee,
I think the electoral college process of electing the president is an archaic and useless process. It served its purpose when instituted, but it now should be discarded. The election of the president must be a direct popular vote, exactly as it is intended to be. It is true that our law making process is a representational democracy, but the presidential election should be a direct democratic voting process.
R
Rich,
I kind of agree with you BUT, wouldn't something have to be done to keep the politicians from spending 100% of their time in only the most heavily populated areas. No money would be spent on campaigning in the midwest, only California, New York and other largely populated areas. Just my $0.02
Lar
Lar,
The presidential election is already supposed to be a popular election. There's always hand ringing when the possibility arises that the electoral vote could differ from the popular vote. Which did happen in the Kennedy-Nixon election. Nixon won the popular vote. I'm glad that Kennedy was president, but the system did not work.
R
Rich,
True, but what is suppose to be not always is. I forgot about the Kennedy Nixon election. Thanks for the reminder.
Lar
Actually Rich, The only other time one person won the popular vote and lost the electoral count was in the 1888 election between Benjamin Harrison and Grover Cleveland. The 1960 election was very close but I'm quite sure that Kennedy did win the popular vote.
I thought this site was for all people who share an interest in woodworking. I am embarrassed over some of the comments that have been made. Is it really important which contry has the best carpenter?
Erik,
I concur wholeheartedly.
Jeff
Rich Rose wrote: The presidential election is already supposed to be a popular election.
I'm sorry, Rich, but you're simply wrong here. Until the Constitution is amended to remove the electoral college and institute a popular vote election, the presidential election is SUPPOSED to be an electoral college election.
If you are unhappy with this situation, then work to change it. Until it IS changed, it is the law in these United States.
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Lee in Cave Junction, Oregon
On the Redwood Highway
I usually vote republican, but McCain this time. I figure GWB is a grand party experiment to find out how dumb is too dumb. To believe Iraq is more of a threat then more then a dozen other nations is fabulous denial waiting for an explanation.
He did not win the popular vote, and the supreme court showed it's colors by making the first "non-precedence" vote in its history. That means if this should happen again, what they did this time has no bearing on future rulings. The only thing about the whole process of the last election the wasn't disappointing was Gore is not the president. Hey, don't forget that the Florida Sec. of State was run out office also for vote fraud or something like that. Yea, she sure was the upstanding citizen to be making rulings in that state! NOT!
Don
Don,
The Supreme Court's decisions in this case were the worst example of a politically motivated court as we have ever seen. And was wrong.
But it turns out that W won the popular vote.
R
I've heard so many misstatements that it's hard to figure out where to start
1- Al Gore won the popular vote by approx 550,000 votes
2- The Fla Sec Of State was not run out of office despite overwhelming evidence that she rigged the election and helped prevent the recount prescribed by Fla law. She quit to run for Congress (ironicly,Harris the chief election officer,forgot to resign as prescribed by law)
3- Canada is NOT a socialist country-(that sounds like the sort of swill that limbaugh spits out on a daily basis)
4- George (AWOL) bush was the 1st President ever selected by a court
5- Bush,Cheney,both avoided service yet have no problem sending others children to fight their war for oil.
Drew,
My mistake on the Harris thing then. Somehow I had gotten the info that she improperly or inadvertantly filed some paperwork for the office(sec. of state) and was hounded out of office as this piled on the already existing pressure of the pres. election. My apologies if this is incorrect. Hadn't heard thought that she rigged the election. Common knowledge of how she hindered the recount though. Well, Jeb promised George that he would win Florida. Guess he was right!
Don
Don, This is how she did it.
Drew,
On #5 you need to delete Bush's name and replace it with Bill Clintons. Bush did win the popular vote, ask Gore he agrees.
Lar
Lar, You're sounding like a dittohead. The facts speak for themselves Gore won the popular vote You're opinion will not change that fact!!!!!!! As for #5 Yes,Clinton did avoid the draft as did Cheney. BUT, bush was a deserter!!!!!
Drew,
Fascinating where you dig up these articles and no major network is willing to show them. Anyway, your going to have to tell Tom Daschle that Gore won the popular vote, since Daschle is the one that told me Busch won it fair and square. I saw Daschle awhile back at the high school track and that is when he told me. Washington Post and Miami Herald also said the same thing. So it's no opinion on my part only fact.
Enough has been said about politics here, actually too much so I'm not saying anymore.
Lar
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Drew Nyman wrote:
1- Al Gore won the popular vote by approx 550,000 votes
2- The Fla Sec Of State was not run out of office despite overwhelming evidence that she rigged the election and helped
prevent the recount prescribed by Fla law. She quit to run for Congress (ironicly,Harris the chief election officer,forgot to
resign as prescribed by law)
3- Canada is NOT a socialist country-(that sounds like the sort of swill that limbaugh spits out on a daily basis)
4- George (AWOL) bush was the 1st President ever selected by a court
5- Bush,Cheney,both avoided service yet have no problem sending others children to fight their war for oil.
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One subject at a time:
1- I don't think even Al Gore himself believes this one.
2- Such "overwhelming evidence" exists ONLY in the minds of a few liberals unhappy with the outcome of the election and the subsequent court decisions. If such evidence truely existed, if, in fact, she had interfered in any way with the election outcome, she would be standing trial, not running for congress.
3- If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, etc. Hey, I happen to love our neighbor to the north, but their government, though not overtly socialist, has very heavy leanings towards socialism (cradle to grave care of her citizens). This is not to say that they are Communist or a dictatorship - that is an entirely separate issue. Please do not take this as an insult to Canada. It is not meant to be at all.
4- Gore was the one who first took the election results to a court. If the decision had been different, he then would have been the first president selected by a court. Would that be OK for Gore and somehow not OK for Bush?
5- Bush was an officer and pilot in the Texas Air National Guard. This is not avoiding service. The ANG is subject to federal callup at any time, as witness the callup for Desert Storm.
"He served as an F-102 pilot for the Texas Air National Guard before beginning his career ..." --Official White House bio of GWB
Cheney's official bio shows no military service, but neither did he dodge a draft like Bill Clinton did. Are you sure you haven't confused the two?
On the other hand, Cheney did serve as Secretary of Defense before he became VP.
"As Secretary of Defense from March 1989 to January 1993, Mr. Cheney directed two of the largest military campaigns in recent history - Operation Just Cause in Panama and Operation Desert Storm in the Middle East. He was responsible for shaping the future of the U.S. military in an age of profound and rapid change as the Cold War ended. For his leadership in the Gulf War, Secretary Cheney was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom by President George Bush on July 3,1991." --Official White House bio of Richard Cheney
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Lee in Cave Junction, Oregon
On the Redwood Highway
Edited 10/26/2002 4:25:59 AM ET by Lee
Re: your #3 (Canada as some sort of socialist duck): I don't regard that as an insult, but I do believe you to be seriously uninformed on this subject. Recent Canadian history has all been about a swing to the right, and any 'cradle to grave' social ideals are long gone, for most people. We do still have universal health care.....like pretty much every other industrialised nation in the world, except the U.S, but no way is this a socialist country.
re your #5: avoiding COMBAT duty is the better way of putting it....which he did, by hitching up for six years in the air guard....two of which he was absent for.
Cheney's record was TWO college deferments to avoid military service while the war was on. There are very few top officials in this adminsitration with combat experience (one out of twelve, according to this article....http://www.wisinfo.com/thereporter/news/archive/opinion_6364832.shtml). The quote "I had other priorities in the '60's than military service" is from a Washington Post interview in 1989, BTW.
Do you want to get into Cheney, and his company Halliburton, and Iraq.....like lobbying for easing of restrictions, like Halliburton doing $73 million worth of business there behind fronts? let me know.cabinetmaker/college instructor. Cape Breton, N.S
#1 Lee, The official results are in and they prove that I'm right! What about this do you fail to understand??? ---(Read the above chart and tell me if you believe it to be inaccurate)
#2 I get my answers from PUBLIC RECORDS Though I do sometimes find that others have summed it up better than I so I use their articles. Harris violated Florida law. Either she's stupid,or is a liar.
#3 Are you foolish enough to assume that Canada is "socialist" simply because their health care system (which my Canadian friends tell me is FAR superior to ours) (and FAR less expensive) is run by the government?
#4 Al Gore saw that he was being shafted by a secratary of state (who also worked for the bush campaign and was later discovered to have illegally used state computers and her office to help bush) and he went to the STATE court in a STATES RIGHTS ISSUE on the other hand, the "STATES RIGHTS" people went to their hacks in the federal court to settle a states rights issue-For the record, there has NEVER been a full recount as prescribed by Florida law
#5 Dick cheney "had other prioities" when it was his time to serve He has NO military record. Yes, he, due to his oil backround, has been appointed to posts by the bush family ... I find it to be most amusing that you would try to pull the wool over my eyes by using The White house biography as a credible source. You lose your credibility when you mention Clinton's dodgeing of the draft (which we all know is true) yet fail to mention the fact that Bush was a deserter
NOTE--To all who don't think politics has no importance to woodworking, Try to buy some of Cuba's fine mahogany!
Edited 10/26/2002 3:14:09 PM ET by Drew Nyman
Drew,
Your final point is very germane to this board. Perhaps one could address the question of Japanese lumbering in the Pacific Northwest and Alaska. (Can you say "Solid oak dining sets from only $599 at Oak Express"?)
The rest of this thread really irritates my rash. We've a group of unusually talented people "arguing" politics by hurling half truths and insults. The ideals of civil discourse, logic and courtesy, having been cast aside, one is left with a thread that sounds as interesting and profound as the drunken ramblings of the crowd at Joe's Bar after a much over-extended happy hour. Such a waste.
Jeff
Don C wrote: He did not win the popular vote...
Don, he did not have to win the popular vote. He had to gain a sufficient number of electoral votes. If you don't like the electoral college, then work to change it, but until it's changed it's still the law of the land.
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Don C wrote: ...the supreme court showed it's colors by making the first "non-precedence" vote in its history.
I assume, Don, that you are referring to the US Supreme Court, not the Florida Supreme Court. If anything, the US Supreme Court was somewhat liberal leaning in its makeup at the time of the decision. It's hard to find any sort of "right wing conspiracy" in this decision.
If you really understood the decision that was handed down by the US Court, you would know that all they did was send the decision back to the Florida Court with the proviso that they could not use a particular legal theory to support their decision. The Florida Court then reversed themselves, rather than issue the expected affirmation under a different theory.
You can go to FindLaw's Legal Commentary for the complete story at:
http://writ.news.findlaw.com/lazarus/20001205.html
Here is a short excerpt:
... Supreme Court's decision today only presents a significant challenge for the Florida Supreme Court if one views the Florida Supreme Court's original decision as resting substantially on the state Constitution (and if the Florida Supreme Court is unwilling to rest a reaffirmation of the decision on alternative grounds).
Otherwise, the Florida court can readily re-extend the certification deadline, while effectively insulating its new ruling from further Supreme Court supervision. That, of course, would be a substantial triumph for Gore. ...
And yet, Gore did not prevail.
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Don C wrote: Hey, don't forget that the Florida Sec. of State was run out office also for vote fraud or something like that. Yea, she sure was the upstanding citizen to be making rulings in that state! NOT!
"...or something like that..."??? Don, Katherine Harris was NOT run out of office; she resigned to run for Congress in Florida's District 13. You can read all about it at http://www.electharris.org/.
Her only mistake there involved a late formal notification of her resignation from office prior to qualification for the election, not illegal at all. Florida law provides that the act of qualifying itself then becomes legal notice of resignation.
In all the decisions she made during the election controversy, she strictly followed Florida's laws concerning the election process. I doubt you'll accept this statement, nevertheless, it is a fact. Despite the controversy swirling about the Florida 2000 election, no person has come forward and challenged her honesty and integrity in her handling of that election as she now runs for Florida's 13th District Congressional seat.
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You really should check your facts before you post.
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Lee in Cave Junction, Oregon
On the Redwood Highway
Lee-
I think (George W.Bush) is doing a great job and support him and his programs in every way.
Thank goodness, a fellow Libertarian. You are the right man to explain to me the programs of President Bush. Does he have any programs? It all seems to be nerve endings and self-contradictory rhetoric to me.
What is the anti-terrorist program? The Afghanistan program? The economic recovery program? The punish-the-corporate-crooks program? The privatization of Social Security program? Indeed, what is the regime-change-in-Iraq program?
These are problems that our President has spoken about, but then let drift or meandered off into other facets of the basic problem. . If there is a coherent program of this Administration, you are the man to explain it.
I'm all ears.
Geeesh Don, I thought his program was simple! Enthusiastically agree with all the waffling or be branded as unamerican. Funny thing is, even as shallow as this program is, I think it still confuses George.
Don
Don,
Stop the politics. If I remember correctly, you're in, or about to move into, a new shop and have purchased some new machinery for the occasion. Get out the camera and post some pics. Don't forget a lot of folks will be interested in the set-up, quality, etc. of the new machinery.
Jeff
Jeff,
Fair enough.
Don
Please lets !!!!!!!STOP!!!!!!!! with the politics, already!
I'm here for the woodworking and I will not dignify with a response any further outrageous claims based on some strange fringe political organization's group imagination. In fact, I think I will just ignore this thread.
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Lee in Cave Junction, Oregon
On the Redwood Highway
Also Mister Lee
You actually sound american (Republican) I think the forgoten problem is the fact that they (Jeb's Force) also repaired republican mail in ballots. that is acknoledged by both parties but since they were both pro counting. the fact that the republicans fixing bad mail in votes was a problem. YEAH!!!!!!!!! Sure they fix democratic ballots too!!!!!! it was proved they did not.
Anyway the quesation is how bad will the econemy get before we get it.
john
This is the most censored forum I've ever seen. Who runs this? The bush administration??? Yeah,I know. They'll probably delete this one also!
Can I throw another block of wood on the fire?
Do Republicans or Democrats make better woodworkers?
Reagan chopped firewood, Carter made furniture.
But I really want to know where the parties stand on woodworking issues like:
1. Woodworking Project Leave, so you can take paid time off to finish the project that you promised your wife would be done next week.
2. The Woodworkers Tool Tax Exemption and Rebate; no taxes on tool purchases and you can deduct the the tax you would have paid from your final income tax bill.
3. The Federal Emergency Part Delivery Agency; which in 1 hour delivers the parts you dicovered you forgot or miscounted at 10PM when the stores are closed.
What else should we ask for?
Brian
Argue this
Who is the enimie. How many iraqs were on those planes?
how many saudis. were on those planes
Now kuatis are killing americans.
Who is stupid, or not reading the situation right
we shoud stand back,
Let it happen,
when the terrorist fall back into themselves, we will be safe.
john g
I thought this was a woodworking forum? Are we going to agrue religion next?
IT not about trade.
We have intergreded everything. even NORAD is a joint american/canadian venture. WE need to stop that, the space station has become a joke. devided and zoned. Thats a joint venture???? Russians Are supporters of Iraq because they benifit. They have the same situation we have and are suffering from terrorism because of iraq.
john g
from one to another/ answer mine about this maple.
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