Ok this is the jig. I read some were about all the wood cut to the wrong side of the line, huge waste or design element.
Question. after helping a friend build a garage and sealing and insulating, we were spray foaming around doors and windows. We wondered how much spray foam is used and how much lands in the garbage??
and the low expantion stuff can still move PVC windows.
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Sticky stuff.
roc
Give me six hours to chop down a tree and I will spend the first four sharpening the axe. Abraham Lincoln ( 54° shaves )
"Sticky stuff"And, expansive, too. ;-)
Spray foam makes the world a bigger place.
--jonnieboy
Wouldn't that be "a smaller place"?Chris @ http://www.flairwoodworks.com and http://www.flairwoodwork.spaces.live.com)
- Success is not the key to happiness. Happiness is the key to success. If you love what you are doing, you will be successful. - Albert Schweitzer
Spray foam makes the world a place.: |When I used to help an electrician back in the day I didn't like to see spray foam already and waiting when I got there. Sticky stuff. On my fingers. On my forearms. All over my tools . . . : ( yuck.rocGive me six hours to chop down a tree and I will spend the first four sharpening the axe. Abraham Lincoln ( 54° shaves )
Okay, Roc. As a one-time electrician helper, you'll know what I mean when I say that my all-time favorite tool is a 9" Kleins. I was going to post that in your Favorite Tool thread, but it didn't seem to fit. Not sure it does here, either.
-Jonnieboy
These guys ?http://www.amazon.com/Klein-D213-9NE-9-Inch-Leverage-Cutting/dp/B0000302W6 Yep good tools the Kleins.This one was a revelationhttp://www.amazon.com/Klein-Tools-Conduit-Locknut-Reaming/dp/B002PDVDYM/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1254635917&sr=1-11I bought it after I wasn't a helper any more. Too cool not to have around. Just used a screw driver and one of these thenhttp://www.amazon.com/Klein-85191-Conduit-Fitting-Reaming-Screwdriver/dp/B000CER0T8/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1254636176&sr=1-3I can still remember the bumper sticker :Electrical wiring is not a hobby, hire a professional.I still say that when ever a friend or coworker has really cocked up something : " Bicycle mechanics is not a hobby, hire a professional ".
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" Auto mechanics is not a hobby, hire a professional. " etc., etc., etc.,: )PS: At work I have been enjoying listening to the Bill Evans that you recommended . Strange how the activity seems to dictate the music. Weld to country music, work on my bikes to rock and roll or big band, do woodworking to classical. Samba ? Well that is reserved for sitting around on a day off doing absolutely nothing or maybe a look in at Knots.rocGive me six hours to chop down a tree and I will spend the first four sharpening the axe. Abraham Lincoln ( 54° shaves )Edited 10/4/2009 2:28 am by roc <!-- ROC2013 -->
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These guys are pretty cool. No more rounding off corners on nuts and bolts. A friend of mine uses them for fiber optic cable connectors. You should have seen my face when I first saw them. :O !
--jonniboy
http://www.knipex.com/index.php?id=1216&L=1&page=group_detail&parentID=1368&groupID=1500&artID=2999
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Yep Yep I'm with you on thosehttp://www.garrettwade.com/7-in-indust-jaw-wrench/p/62K15.01/have always wanted a couple a pair. I been watching the price increase on them lately.there seems to always be some tool I " need " more. Queenmasteroftheuniverseandbabybunnytrainer made me put in the quotation marks. These days if I get a package in the mail she sniffs it and if it smells like it came from a tool supplier I get " that look ". The one that says I have lost points. I can't afford to loose many more points right now so gotta be cool.So I will just ask you if you will receive it at your house and repackage it as vacuum cleaner parts or free laundry detergent samples or some such.Who am I kidding ? She can still sniff it out.I first saw them in the tool box of the owner of the Audi unibody shop I worked at. His were SnapOn. I am just scared they will quit making them before I can snag a pair. There is always the used tool market I guess.rocGive me six hours to chop down a tree and I will spend the first four sharpening the axe. Abraham Lincoln ( 54° shaves )
jonnieboy,I got the original knipex when they were nobody at a nowhere store. Literally the best hand tool I own. They are what every adjustable pliers type, grab it and turn it, device wants to be. I haven't used the new type like pictured because my original still work so darn great.rob kress
Rob,
I love that when a tool works like that! Go Knipex!
--jonnieboy
I agree.
I just HATE seeing those folks on TV opening and closing plumbing and electrical fittings with a old pair of channel-locks! Teeth marks all over the plated finish and even into old brass fittings. Makes me sort of sick!
>HATE seeing those folks on TV opening and closing plumbing and electrical fittings with a old pair of channel-locks!<I know ! if they would use a brand new pair of channel-locks they would get deeper penetration and would do more damage.Just kidding. Can't help it.Here is what I been getting by with; before I learned about the cool Euro pliers.Those are channel locks that I built up a bunch of brass rod into the teeth and filed it off. Not great but works in some cases.The plastic padded jaw pliers work well but delicate and EXPENSIVE for what they are. Beats a red rag wrapped around though.By the way; I went down to the shop to photograph the pliers and that black dude (dudett ? ) was hanging from the ceiling above my mechanics bench all ready for halloween. I captured her with the " spider catcher ". She was much bigger when dangling. She is making like poor dead shriveled spider so I will pi$$ off and let her get back to commandeering my shop.Every year for christmas I get Queenmasteroftheuniverseandbabybunnytrainer at least one present that honestly I think will maker her life easier and better but since I tend to shop in unorthodox places ( OK tool stores ) these presents can back fire. Usually with six months or so perspective I can sort of see where I went wrong.But every once in a while I hit it right and she loves it.Like the time I got her a long handled truck wash brush. Seemed like just the thing to scrub the bath tub without bending over. She hates it. She makes me use it. I love it. Makes cleaning the tub much easier just like I thought. She says good you use it. I do. Still can't figure out why it doesn't work for her.( : |But the spider catcher . . . aahhh that was different. She opened the gift and turned this cheep plastic thing on a stick all around and looked at me like I pissed on her shoe. Then I explained what it was. Then she almost dropped it like it had a spider already on/in it and began to pouted in ernest.https://www.petacatalog.org/prodinfo.asp?number=HP220Now ? Well she would fight yah for it. She loves it. She doesn't like squishing bugs on the wall or floor and would rather keep them alive and just move em out side.Put it over the bug and if on the wall just rotate the handle and the sliding door slides shut by gravity. On the ceiling just waggle it until they drop in and slide the door shut. Once outside hold at arms length and rotate. The door slides open and shake. Bug all gone into the weeds etc.Any way black widows hanging from the ceiling of my shop is a definite sign I have not been spending enough time in my shop. Ahhh it is cooling off and is slacking off a bit at work so look out shop here I come ! ! !rocGive me six hours to chop down a tree and I will spend the first four sharpening the axe. Abraham Lincoln ( 54° shaves )
Edited 10/6/2009 2:56 am by roc
>HATE seeing those folks on TV opening and closing plumbing and electrical fittings with a old pair of channel-locks!<What's wrong with regular old pliers?Chris @ http://www.flairwoodworks.com and http://www.flairwoodwork.spaces.live.com)
- Success is not the key to happiness. Happiness is the key to success. If you love what you are doing, you will be successful. - Albert Schweitzer
My suspicion is that you have never used one of those fancy knipex grabber type thingies. Cause if you had, you wouldn't even own a pair of pliers. :)Rob Kress
Nah, I don't deal with nuts and bolts to justify even reaching for pliers. Sockets and a Cresent wrench are my defaults.Chris @ http://www.flairwoodworks.com and http://www.flairwoodwork.spaces.live.com)
- Success is not the key to happiness. Happiness is the key to success. If you love what you are doing, you will be successful. - Albert Schweitzer
One of my favorite , used a lot , mechanic's tools is a very small pair of plain old pliers. They are SnapOn pliers and they cost a fortune but are not all rattly and have crisp gripping teeth. Yes they are better than the basic pliers look alikes.Not for plumbing and electrical though. More for gripping and pulling on small things or squeezing a thing just a tweak without slipping off. The Snap on man went out of his way to stop in and deliver a message from another shop/mechanic. Before I had a cell phone.I bought a couple of tools from him to make it worth his while. Turns out I like the pliers more than I expected. I attempted to find a pic but the SnapOn site on line is super lousy compared to their colorful and nicely done paper catalogs. I expect that is intentional so we support the people in the trucks in the field. OK by me.I am all wedged in on the couch with the pastry and coffee so not going down to the shop to take pics now. Besides there are black widders in there. Of late I don't go in there with out both the short and the long sword.: )PS: here they are. I found 'em after allhttp://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?P65=&tool=all&item_ID=15551&group_ID=11630&store=snapon-store&dir=catalogrocGive me six hours to chop down a tree and I will spend the first four sharpening the axe. Abraham Lincoln ( 54° shaves )Edited 10/6/2009 9:43 pm by roc <!-- ROC2013 -->Edited 10/6/2009 9:45 pm by roc <!-- ROC2013 -->
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.22 bird shot, shorts = less vermin.Read in an 1880's history book and they made a vary fine shot in all calibers for "house cleanin" After all those chinked logs let a few little friends in.You know pre spray foam days?? Kind of like trying to tell the kids that we didn't have the internet till 1994.??? they thought we we lying, " How could you live?" says one.Explained we didn't have a phone on one farm till 1967 and it was a partyline. "What's a partyline. Tried to explain. Dumb look on face. OK Facebook with ten people and no video.Repeat dumblook. Explained teletype, lost in space. As The attitude with legs is texting.Glass of red wine and watch the Cathode Ray Tube.Shoe oH the memories
Shoe,
"After all those chinked logs let a few little friends in.
You know pre spray foam days??"
I must say, amazing post! I tip my pen to you. You took Roc's spider-saving post, which by the way started as being about pliers, and took that 'round to log cabin chinks letting critters in, then right on back to our long, lost original topic -- spray foam.
That was good.
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And since we were getting close to being back on topic, do you remember when they used to say, "Computers will change our lives."
We were all thinking, at least I was, "Yeah right, is it something like the metric system?"
And yet, here we are. Now if I'm not automatically logged on to my favorite website because it doesn't 'remember' me, I'm all hurt, like it's personal. "Remember me? C'mon, sure you do. It's me. I was here yesterday."
--jonnieboy
Digital Rejection. It's new, but it still hurts!Hey pull your can the sting has gone slack!!
roc, yuck isn't even close. I had a young fella helping me to prep the house before painting three sides with a big airless rig, replace a bathroom window, a bunch of cap boards and caulk the windows and door frames.
After a few days we had a good number of small carpenters tools about -speed square, tape measures, beater chisles, two Estwing hammers etc.- that we kept in a plaster pail over night. As we finished up late on the last day it started to sprinkle a little rain so I asked him to pack up quickly and put the pail in the back of my F-150 and button her up as I collected the CS, drills and extension cords. In his haste he also tossed an almost full large red can of Hilti foam but upside down and yes it was pressed down by some heavy item tossed in on top of it.
It was a day later when I needed a hammer that I found my one piece tool collection perfectly preserved in the bottom 3 to 4" of that plaster pail and it took a week off and on to dig out the tools. It was like digging out dinosaur bones. So BEWARE THE FOAM CAN. Paddy
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Ha, ha, ha, aaahhhh, Ha, ha, ha, haOh sorry . . . I mean . . . errrr. . . that's horrible. Poor fellows. Bummer.Sure is " fun " to work with the inexperienced or the ones that don't picture in their mind ' oh wait if I do this then THAT may happen. I better not do it that way " .Makes a person question the definition of the word " helper " doesn't it ?; )PS: Right now at work half of all I do is un-helping things. I call them boomerangs because they always come back.rocGive me six hours to chop down a tree and I will spend the first four sharpening the axe. Abraham Lincoln ( 54° shaves )Edited 10/6/2009 1:05 am by roc <!-- ROC2013 -->
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All I know is, don't try to guess-timate how much it will expand to fill a crack. Or you can guess, but then go ahead and multiply by about seven.
--jb
I say NEVER spray into a closed cavity! Open it up and scrape off the excess. Then close it off again. You will be pleased with the results.. Now what to do with the scraped off foam?
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