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   forestgirl | Oct 20, 2003 05:16am | #1

   Take a cyber-trip to the Wooden Boat Foundation, based in Port Townsend (not toooooo far from Olympia), and a very pretty drive.  Of course the web site is right in front of you, LOL:
   http://www.woodenboat.org/

   Western Red Cedar has been pretty scarce lately, but you could give a call to Edensaw in Port Townsend and see if they can get some for you.  I tried the places in Seattle and struck out.
   http://www.edensaw.com/

   forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl   ;-)

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   migraine | Oct 20, 2003 05:31am | #2

   Prior to me moving up to Wash, you gave me some referals to some hardwood lumber yards.  Would you mind sending them again.  Hopefully, I won't loose them this time

   Last week, I went to a hardware yard off of Blacklake in Olympia  and they were selling ALDER for $4.50+ B.F. when I could get it in SoCAl for $2.25+/-   

   Go figure

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   forestgirl | Oct 20, 2003 06:30am | #3

   $4.50 BF????  That's hysterical!!!  ROFL.

   OK, here's an excerpt from earlier post:

   Seattle has two (at least) good hardwood suppliers, CrossCut Hardwoods and Compton Lumber and Hardwood, they are both on 1st Ave. South, less than a block from each other. 

   There's also at least one real good plywood place in Seattle.  I'd have to dig that reference up.  Keep in mind, once you find the actually street address in the phone book, that it's 1st Ave. South.  I  had a meet-n-greet set up with someone awhile back, and the folks that gave him directions had him miles from the right part of 1st Ave.   Since you're coming from Olympia, that south part is to your advantage.  Both places are a bit hard to spot as you're driving down the road, but Crosscut a little easier to see.

   If it turns out that Edensaw's the only place to get the cedar, they might be able to deliver for you.  I have a friend here on the island who get small amounts of lumber from them and just has them add it to the next truck they have going to contractors and cabinetmakers located here.  However, if you do happen to drive the drive to PT, be sure and stop at the Spruce Goose Cafe at the PT airport -- great place to eat!

   Feel free to drop me an email if you have any other questions.  Later!

   forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl   ;-)

   Edited 10/19/2003 11:37:38 PM ET by forestgirl

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   Elcoholic | Oct 20, 2003 08:25pm | #4

   Ditto on the Wooden Boat Foundation.  I went to their festival a few weeks back and there were a lot of local canoe builders there.  I'm sure they'd be an excellent resource for know-how and materials.  Besides cedar there was widespread use of spruce as well.John O'Connell - JKO Handcrafted Woodworking

   Life is tough.  It's tougher if you're stupid - John Wayne

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   Rav | Oct 20, 2003 09:54pm | #5

   Well,

   I'm not exactly a Pacific North Westerner,,, Central Canada; Ontario to be specific. I've got about 300-400 hours so far on a cedar strip I've been building off & on at my cottage in Northern Ontario. Just now getting to the fun part of trimming out in Ash & Cherry, and installing seats/ yoke, etc. Should be ready for its maiden voyage come spring (04)

   There should be numerous vendors of Western Red out there (contrasting woods such as spruce, and ash might compliment the red cedar quite nicely as accents in the hull strips) I didn't have any problems locating stock in Ontario.. In fact there are several companies that sell pre- milled (bead & cove) 1/4" red cedar in kits. check out this link for Green Valley Boatworks http://www.greenval.com/ theres all kinds of info on hull designs, full scale take off drawings for forms, and links to many usefull sites. I visit "Noah's" (one of the links @ greenval" here in Toronto for boat building supplies.

   Have fun with it!

   Robert

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   forestgirl | Oct 21, 2003 04:59am | #7

   "I didn't have any problems locating stock in Ontario.. "  I've been told that the reason we're having trouble here getting cedar is because most of it would normally come from Canada, but because of the trade disagreement over lumber, it's not affordable at this point.  Who knows if that's right, but that was the line I got.

   Jon-the-tree-wizard was saying awhile back that WRC will be the next hard-to-find wood because it's been over-harvested and isn't regrowing fast enough to keep up with demand.forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl   ;-)

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   Rav | Oct 21, 2003 05:37pm | #8

   "having trouble here getting cedar is because most of it would normally come from Canada, but because of the trade disagreement over lumber, it's not affordable at this point."

   Cedar lumber is not part of the trade dispute. Cedar is classified as a specialty species. The trade dispute is over soft wood lumber; SPF

   Robert

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   Andesign | Oct 21, 2003 07:44pm | #10

   Robert,

   Western Red Cedar imported from Canada to the U.S. is being assessed the approx. 27% tariff as are other softwoods, even though many say it wasn't intended that WRC be a part of the softwood lumber dispute.  The main driving force behind the dispute is the U.S. stud lumber industry.  Several attempts have been made to get WRC removed from the tariff, but the U.S. Dept. of Commerce has denied those requests.  I use WRC in my business (arbors and trellises) and the tariff has had a significant effect on both price and availability of WRC.

   Rick

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   sailalex | Oct 21, 2003 12:48am | #6

   There is a kayak builders forum that is sponsored by Guillemot Kayaks (Nick Schade is author of a great book on strip builts). In the book he lists some suppliers  (EdenSaw Wood,Ltd, Port Townsend,Wash, 800-745-3336; Flounder Bay Boat Lumber, Anacortes Wash, 800-228-4691) These may be dated but the forum is excellent ( I learned a lot when I did a strip built from them) and they are great with suppliers names. Good luck.

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   OLDWING | Oct 21, 2003 07:43pm | #9

   Here's the very best cedar strip canoe site on the planet: http://www.bearmountainboats.com/

   Bruce

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   Andesign | Oct 21, 2003 08:16pm | #11

   Brian,

   Flounder Bay Boat Lumber in Anacortes is another good source of materials and information.  Their phone number is (360) 299-3538.  I believe they also have a web site.  Good Luck!

   Rick