Clear Vue verses Oneida Dust Collectors
Moosewood
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Is anyone currently using the ClearVue dust collector? If so, I would be interested in your reaction to the unit. For those using the Oneida system, have you found it necessary to freequently clean the filter.
Thank you for any input which you might provide on this subject.
Sincerely
Rick
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I'm just a hobbyist but haven't had to clean my filter yet.... installed super gorilla 2hp last november. Have emptied about 100 gallon of sawdust that had a lot of fine dust in it. Cleaning the filter isn't major... plus it means it's doing it's job, which is why I bought it in the first place.
Thank you for your response. Bill Pentz makes a compelling argument for using the Clear Vue Cyclone because the fine dust ends up in the hopper and not the filter with the system he designed. The implication in his argument is that no other manufacturer has been able to accomplish the same thing. I am glad to learn that your experience does not support his argument.
Rick
Moose:
I have the Oneida 2HP Super Gorilla and apart from the time I got the thing back-up, the filter has only needed an occasional blast with the air hose. I do give it a check every 2 months just to be on the safe side. BTW, don't get distracted or forget to empty the bin as it's a royal pain to clean it out!
Oneida can be summed up as follows:
1. Great service and response
2. Product works as advertised
3. Fit and finish not all it could be
4. A little pricey perhaps (see Sarge's posts on the Penn State)
I have a question.
The user manual says that you should not cycle the machine more than six times in an hour lest the motor over heat. How seriously should I take that? Is the manufacturer covering its rear? I tend to leave it running to avoid a lot of starts and stops.
Regards,
Hastings
Good post..my impression with the product. And I am also curious about the motor. Would it make a difference if it close to the ceiling? Mine has about 12 inches free space above it.Cheers,Peter
"And I am also curious about the motor. Would it make a difference if it close to the ceiling? Mine has about 12 inches free space above it."Thanks for posting this thought. I'm trying to decide between Oneida and Grizzly for my garage shop and I might not want to run a noisy dust control machine (78 dB or more)all the time. My system would have a couple of inches clearance above the top of the motor. Maybe I should plan to install a fan to blow air across the motor housing to help cool it.BruceT
12" is plenty of clearance. If you were to calculate the net free area of the vent on the motor top, you'd probably be okay with just a few inches.trimjim
"I'm sure that 12" is plenty of space between motor and ceiling." Are you saying that my 2" clearance would be no problem?BruceT
Edited 6/26/2007 1:09 am ET by BruceT999
I wouldn't say 2" is okay for sure...but... if the motor is 7" diameter and 2" from the ceiling you have about 42 sq inches of air flow. The motor would have about 70 sq inches BUT has a screened top that cuts down the area from 70 to about 50?? These are approx numbers. If possible cut a hole above the motor to gain extra clearance or possibly shorten the hose connecting the cyclone to the drum to lower it down another inch or 2. I'd call oneida to see what they recommend for clearance.
trimjim
Edited 6/26/2007 6:09 am ET by jvk
I think you made a math error. Even if the entire end of a 7" diameter motor were air intake, the area would be a little over 38 square inches.
In any case, I know from experience that 2" of clearance off of the end of the motor is sufficient, but it is about the minimum workable distance.
John White, Shop Manager, Fine Woodworking Magazine
You're right I did make a math error.trimjim
I only have 7' ceilings. It was necessary for me to cut a hole in the sheetrock in order to give me enough height to fit my 1 1/2 hp Oneida. I ran it this was for 8-9 years without any damage to the motor.
I'm a hobbist and have had the 3 HP Super Gorilla for about a year now and the only time I had to clean the filter is when I let the dust back up by accident, its a major PITA when it happens.
Ocassionally I open the bottom trap and it contains a thin smattering of fine dust. Couldn't be happier with its power and performance.Wayne
John, I don't know if you have been following this post but, I, too, am curious about the recommendation to limit "starts" to 6 per hour. Is this really critcal?Frosty
When a single phase motor starts up, it draws a lot of current until it comes up to full speed, especially when starting a large fan blade which has a lot of inertia. Much of that current winds up creating heat in the motor's windings and start capacitor.
Repeatedly cycling the motor on and off, especially if it doesn't run for awhile each time it gets turned on, which would allow time for the motors ventilation to carry away the heat, could eventually cause the motor to overheat. There is nothing unique to the Oneida DC in this respect, any dust collector would have this problem, they're just being honest and very cautious.
John White, Shop Manager, Fine Woodworking Magazine
John:Thank you for explaining it so clearly. I have settled into a pattern of avoiding repeated on/off cycles and I think I will just keep doing what I've been doing.Thank you again.Regards,Hastings
I have the older 1 1/2 hp Oneida and only clean the filter occasionally or when I think it's blocking the air flow (this is the internal pleated filter, not the newer type). I haven't found it to be a problem, just something to check on from time to time. But your question is pretty open-ended considering everybody works differently.
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