Guys,
Some of the posts are getting a bit nasty. I left Woodworking.com because of that exact same thing.
People (or at least I) come here to exchange ideas, seek and give advice, and sometimes dish out a bit good hearted banter. We’re blessed to have as participants some master craftsmen who take time out of their schedules to answer our questions just because they have a love for woodworking. We are “sponsored” (read paid for) by the best woodworking mag there is.
Please don’t ruin this forum! If you’d like to see what can happen when these things get out of hand, just go to the above-mentioned site and check out the “Just Talking” forum.
Thanks,
Jeff
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That's a very interesting question Jeff. Yesterday you started this subject http://forums.taunton.com/tp-knots/messages?msg=7791.1 in The Woodworkers Cafe, which was the correct place to start your topic.
I followed your leads in this new topic of yours, and went to http://forums.woodworking.com/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.pl?az=list&forum=DCForumID8&conf=DCConfID3 and opened up several discussions looking for something that might be construed as offensive, or even 'off-topic,' but I couldn't find any. The only discussion that looked like it was generating any interesting heat was this one , http://forums.woodworking.com/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.pl?az=read_count&om=1987&forum=DCForumID8&viewmode=threaded , the Clinton 'rip-off' thread. I don’t see why this might be offensive because it's just an exchange of views, most of which are all well rehearsed and parroted ad infinitum, and ad nausem, in just about any bar and social gathering, and all a bit old hat really.
Right over the door before you enter that section of the forum it states, “Just Talking”, and below that it says very clearly,
"Show off you best or latest work, share project updates, gloats, jokes, and opinions", (my bold and underline.)
Protected forum: Only registered users can post
If I walk into a place that has a sign above the door that says, “Titty Bar. Lap dancing a speciality,” I’ll not get upset if a girl shakes her booty at me. On the other hand, if I walk into a place that has a sign at the entrance, “Gay Paree,” or "Pink Poser" it wouldn’t be a total surprise to me if it was full of gay people.
If you want to keep woodworking subjects focused where they belong in Knots, your topic was posted in the wrong place, by the way. The Café is where we start non-woodworking topics such as this, as the sign above its door indicates quite clearly, but now that you've started it, maybe it'll roll for a while, ha, ha-- lots of winks, grins and other touchy-feely emoticon nonsense should be read as added here to indicate to all that my tongue is firmly in my cheek in bothering to respond to this topic--- at all. Slainte, RJ.
Sgian,
It's a sad thing hearing a man of your skills wandering the streets of Houston looking for a better lap joint. It shows incredible dedication to the discipline to be sure, does the plaid skirt help get conversations started?
"does the plaid skirt help get conversations started?"
Ha, ha, BG. It's a veritable babe magnet. I don't trawl the streets looking for such bars, but it's pretty obvious when you see the sign---- and I already know where they are anyway. Slainte. RJFurniture
Sgian,
Not sure we're on the same page... My question about the Woodworkers Cafe was just that. I did not know if it was a live chat room or for some other use.
My post here had nothing to do with my question about the Woodworkers Cafe; rather it concerned name calling and insults creeping up in a few posts.
I used Woodworking.com as a example of what can happen when these things get out of hand.
At said site, see "Just Talking", topic #2015 numbers 4, 8, 14, 20-37. The moderator has now closed the discussion and deleted #4. He has had to delete entire topics in the past.
Hope this clears things up, and sorry if I ruffled your feathers. Remember that I really think this site is great and rue the thought of it becoming anything less.
Jeff
Edited 9/8/2002 11:57:41 AM ET by Jeff K
I didn't open that thread when I looked before Jeff. Fair entertainment for ten minutes or so. People sometimes do seem to get all knicker twisted in forums. I guess it's the nature of the beast.
None of my feathers were ruffled. I was amused, and thought I'd made it clear at the end of my response that my tongue was in my cheek. It takes a lot to ruffle my feathers. Slainte, RJ.
RJFurniture
Edited 9/8/2002 1:49:44 PM ET by Sgian Dubh
Och mon, at least if'n yer werrin yer kilt yer nay gonna get any knickers in a twist......
Jeff,
Sigian has pretty thick skin. NB how I recently compared Haggis to tofu on milk toast with beansprouts and he didn't even turn a hair.
Frank
> ...People sometimes do seem to get all knicker twisted in forums. I guess it's the nature of the beast.
It's been that way (this way?) since the dawn of on line communication. Two things contribute to it, in my view....
1) Without eye contact, body language, tone of voice, and all those things that give real meaning to face-to-face communication, we often missinterpret each others meanings and/or intent.
2) ASCII text creates something of total anonimity allowing anyone to be Arnold Swarzeneiger, Albert Einstein or whoever. Some peoples' alteregos get in the way of their power of reason. Put two of them in the same discussion and you have an explosive situation.
How to deal with either? - when jesting with someone new (to you) make it clear that that's so. Once you've established a raport, such as it can be on line, then subtle humor can work. The brutish can best be ignored. They will burn themselves out in a far shorter time if we let such immature sqhabbling die a natural and much quicker death than if we jump in and attempt to mediate.
Dennis in Bellevue WA
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