concealed HINGE lazy susan problem!!!
Hey Fellas,
I have a little problem, I am building kitchen cabinets for a client. 1st These are inset doors. If I use a concealed hinge for inset doors (blum). The path of the lazy susan turntable (with the contents on the turntable) will come in contact will the hinge when it spins. I wanted the turntable to be as big as possible this is why I am having the problem. What are my options? I want to stay away from a exposed finial hinge then I would have to use them on all 24 doors. And the client wants concealed. Are there any other hinge options (No piano hinges please)that will be inconspicuous.
Please help, Lou
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Soss hinges mortise into the edge of the door and into the edge of the face frame creating a concealed look and no protrusion into the cabinet box. They may work for your situation.
-Paul
Hi Lou ,
You didn't say exactly what configuration of corner you are using , inside square corner or angled 45° . Several options exist depending on which way you've gone . On a kidney shaped inside square you can step the lazy back to allow room for the hinges , or bore the door to allow the clearance you need , this is typically how I do it .
Even though the template tells you to pull the lazy forward , you don't have to . So wether it's a round unit or a kidney shaped unit will dictate your options . Nothing usually sticks out past the lazy shelf so if it clears the hinge it should be o.k.
good luck dusty
Like Dusty said, you didn't tell us what shape the cabinet is and what shape the lazy susan is, so it's a bit hard to picture. But I can't imagine any situation where you couldn't get by without altering the height of the hinges to simply avoid the turning tray.
BTW, I refuse to put lazy susans in kitchens any more. If you actually calculate the storage area on a lazy susan you will see that it equals the 3 or 4 drawers that you could have put in the same opening. Haven't installed one in 3 years now. We use only the double pull-out corner units.
regards,
David Ring
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Hi David ,
I too am not a big fan of lazy susans and only if there are 2 or more corners in a kitchen will I use them , but I don't push them at all . I most often use the inside square corner configuration with a fixed shelf stepped back about 3" from the face . I call them a space saving corner . It is a long reach to the way back , if they load the items most seldom used first the easily reached areas can be used for everyday items , and the increased storage is a positive thing .
You say you use the double pull out corner units , do you use the 45° corner base for the pull outs ? The reason I like the square corner is the opening is so much larger than the angled corner .
shalom dusty
Dusty,
We use this kind:http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=11088We try hard never to make a 45° corner, but if the client insists then we just put a regular square cabinet inside it. They can stand on their heads and scream but we will no longer make a lazy susan corner unit.
The truth is than in most cases it's best to just kill the corner space and not use it at all. Unless it's a tiny apartment where every inch counts, it's usually more cost and trouble than it's worth.regards,David Ring
http://www.touchwood.co.il/?id=1&lang=e
Its an inside 90 degree corner susan. I built the susan. I did not purchase any hardware. I made the turntable to big so it encroaches on the hinges.
Lou ,
Now that we know what you've got , I'm guessing you made it out of wood , the way I see it here are a few choices at this point .
Cut it down , make another , put a shelf in the hole , a stack of smallish roll outs on one side and perhaps open shelving on the other half .
good luck dusty
" how good we are is how good we fix our mistakes "
Aha! Cut it down and leave the hinges alone. Next time you re-invent the wheel do better research. LOL,David Ring
http://www.touchwood.co.il/?id=1&lang=e
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