I’m designing a run of cabinets for our family room. I am looking for suggestions on an optimizer program for sheet goods. I don’t use Sketch Up. I’m hoping there’s a relatively inexpensive (free would be nice) bit of software that can help me layout the cabinet parts are 4X8 sheets of plywood faster than I could do it by hand. I did a Google search using “woodworking optimization software” and the result was mostly confusion. Does anyone have a favorite Windows based (doesn’t have to go on my phone) program they can recommend or maybe even one to avoid. Thanks for your help.
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Have you considered
https://www.cutlistoptimizer.com/
or
https://www.opticutter.com/cut-list-optimizer
?
There are a few online tools. The most recent one I used was
http://workshop-buddy.com/cut-optimization-calculator.html
Not to throw a wrench into the gears but it would take a large run of complex cabinets to compensate for the learning curve of new software vs just laying it out on graph paper. Also keep in mind the old military adage that the best of plans go to hell upon contact with the enemy. No software can tell you where the most attractive (or unattractive) grain patterns are on a particular board, plus unless these shelves will be painted I always try to cut as much from as few a sheets as possible to avoid staining and finishing problems. I would rather buy an extra sheet of plywood rather live with some glaring tonal mismatch in a cabinet because a piece of software told me I'd save a few bucks. Just my opinion.
When I use plywood, it's only for paint. The optimizer I used above is helpful to use the smallest amount of ply possible. Simply input the plywood dimensions, part sizes, the thickness of the kerf, and it gives you images of the pieces to be cut. Much, much quicker than graph paper or anything else.
Less troublesome waste, too, especially if you're the kind reluctant to bin or burn. Lots of panel work has nothing to do with grain or aesthetics -- you just want to keep the waste down, make the machine do the work and feel clever about it. Works for me.
I've used a couple of them in the past but nothing I was anxious to use again. If there's a good Sketchup add-in I'd like to know about it.
I agree, most software programs are only designed to optimize as much material as possible. In the real world, you need to compensate for blemishes and optimize for looks. I do it the old fashioned way, I look at each piece.
Thanks for all the input. I am very mindful of the learning curve associated with new software, particularly since I'm a hobbyist. I might make one or two cabinet projects in a year and I'm likely to forget most of what I learned in the 8 to 12 months between projects. Like others, I'm most concerned with conserving waste. Its not so much the cost of the extra plywood, its storing it. If I can avoid buying that extra sheet from which I might only need 10% or so, I (and my wife) will be much happier. I think I might give CutList Plus at try (www.cutlistplus.com). They offer a free trial, the basic software is only $89. I've found that "free" is often worth what you pay for it. Thanks again. If anyone has experience, good or bad, with Cutlist Plus, let me know.
I've used the free version MaxCut for several years. https://www.maxcutsoftware.com/
It's easy to use and with a little practice, you can use it for both sheet goods and linear layouts. It has been a big time saver and material saver, too. It's not an online tool and lets you save projects.
The only thing I dislike about it is that it takes quite a while to load and the start screen is a bit confusing, but neither are that big a deal.
https://workshop-buddy.com/ is worth a look, here is a benchmark between it and another popular tool CutList Optimizer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivcVXtTLQoQ
The results of the benchmark are shown in the attached image
I'm the developer, so any suggestions please let me know
-bobd1234
You're welcome to post here, but please identify yourself as a representative of the software you're posting about. Otherwise it's just spam.
Thanks.
Hi Ben - apologies, I've made it clear in my original post. I'm hoping to get some feedback from some experienced woodworkers and I thought here would be a good place to start. Keep up the good work!
My two pennies worth; you know what you want the finished product to look like and the dimensions. A pencil & paper is best for transferring your idea.
My only caution; be sure of the plywood thickness you want. Thicker may not always be better, even for load bearing.
Hope this helps.
Mikaol
Cutlist Plus!!
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Try this out:
https://apps.apple.com/vn/app/sheetcut-optimizer-nesting-go/id1544888549
It's the simplest and easiest one I've ever found for sheet goods optimization, works pretty well for my projects, and it's cheap($4.99/mon, $49.9/year) considering the number of sheets I've saved!
I've used a couple of free web-based optimizers that do a great job. I can't imagine that 50 bucks will get me anything I'm missing.
Could you please share some of the free web-based optimizers with me? Thanks for the information!
I mentioned https://workshop-buddy.com/ above, which has a free tier (this is mine).
If you google ‘free cutlist optimizer’ you’ll see the most popular ones
If you haven't found one yet or someone else is looking, I found this that was quite useful https://wooddesigner.org/cutting-list-software-understanding-the-benefits/
I think they might be on the professional side though.
I find https://cutlistoptimizer.com/ is easy to use, and is free. (Free is a Very Good price!)
I think you're limited to 5 calculations per day, and several options are disabled for free users with CLO - I've been using for a few weeks now and very pleased with the efficiency, no restrictions
https://cutlistevo.com/
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