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   hammer1 | Dec 09, 2005 08:10am | #1

   "Considering the efficient cartridge filters provided on most cyclones these days, is a shop air cleaner still necessary?"

   Do you expect to have 100% dust collection at each machine and do you use any hand power tools that generate dust, even a hand sander a broom or bench brush? I think I have pretty good collection at the source for most of my machines but the air cleaner has made a very noticeable difference in the fine dust that used to accumulate around the shop. My shop has south facing windows and the dust that shows in the sunbeams is quite a bit. I don't think it's possible to get it all but an ambient will help.

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   DonStephan | Dec 11, 2005 08:09pm | #2

   I've been researching cyclones for some time. I would suggest reading Bill Pence's material on cyclones http://www.billpentz.com
   My expectation is that all the well known cyclones by design are really only chip collectors, and require a filter of some type to catch ALL of the fine dust. That's going to add unnecessary time and effort, and shorten the life of the filter. Pentz' web site links to a start-up business making a plastic cyclone that seemingly captures most of the fine dust with the chips, but expected life span of the plastic unknown.

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   AntzyClancy | Dec 15, 2005 12:52am | #3

   The startup that Don is referring to is:

   http://www.clearvuecyclones.com/

   After doing extensive research, I see it like this: You can order an Oneida or Woodsucker and get good air movement and filtration, but a lot of fine dust will go into the filters and you will be cleaning them often. If you don't clean them, they will clog, dropping air movement to low for fine dust collection.

   The other option is to built a Bill Pentz design, or order one from Clearvue. Then you get good air movement and filtration, and due to the efficiency of the design, almost all of the dust will by placed into the chip bin, and not go into the filters. I just placed an order.

   Good Luck,

   Todd

4. 
   Glaucon | Dec 17, 2005 11:54pm | #4

   Oneida has been a standard bearer here, but I wonder how the new Grizzly's measure up.  Anyone had any experience with either?

   Glaucon

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