I found a Delta model number 36-812 10″ Unisaw for sale but there is no plug attached to the end of the cord. Is this because this particular model needs to be hard-wired into the house electricity?
I don’t know much about running 220 to my garage/shop and was wondering how much it would cost and if anyone could fill me in with more details about this particular model of saw.
I’m not sure the saw works, but the guy selling it says it does. What would be a good price to pay for it…it has a 50″ Bes. fence system and appears to be in good condition (keeping in mind I haven’t heard the thing run). He came across the saw when one of his tenants stopped paying the rent and left the saw.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
~EW
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The 36-812 is listed as 1 phase 230v 3hp, found an ad that had it listed for $1299.99, in 1999. You can just add the proper plug and away you go, i would want to hear it run first.
Jonny,
I'd also want to clarify that he actually has ownership of the saw and can legally sell it.....
So how would you do that? Idon't think anyone issues certificates of ownership for saws. Or deadbeats receipts . . . .Posession is 9/10's of the law.
Edited 7/18/2003 5:41:36 PM ET by boatman
Boatman,
In many cities they have rules for landlords and tennants. There is also a body of law that covers these situations. Personally, I'd see if there are state/city contracts and what the terms are. I might seek an attny's opinion...and, if necessary, ask the attny to draft bill of sale with a hold harmless clause in case the tennant sues for his saw.
Boat-person ....
Possession may be 9/10 of the law but it's the remaining 1/10 that can end up getting you screwed. Look into the leagality of the purchase before you get in too deeply!
Some 220/230v machines are shipped without plugs since there are several options available; twist lock, three prong, and so forth. It really doesn't make a lot of difference other than it's nice to have the plug/receptical match the amp rating of the equipment that it's being used to connect.
Cost isn't something we here on Knots would be likely to provide accurately. Where your panel is located, do you want rigid conduit, ... lots of issues. You really need to talk to an electrician if DYI is out of the question. It's not difficult to install a dedicated 220/230v circuit if you've done electrical work before but if you don't feel comfortable doing it, that's a real indication you shouldn't be doing it.
I would agree,..... make sure you hear the saw run before you put any money on the table!
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Dennis in Bellevue WA
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Thank you all for your input. As JD has stated, its in his garage now and working great!
As for the 9/10's of the law topic of discussion...the guy who owns the lofts that the tools were located in (unisaw, routers, clamps, drills, etc $$$) said that the tennant owed them a TON of money and that it was VERY unlikely that he would be returning anytime soon. The loft owner has no idea where the tennant is (therefore cannot call to ask if he wants the stuff back) otherwise they would have called him to collect the money owed.
~EW
JDorn: One suggestion. You should call Biesemeyer direct and buy a set of blemished support legs. Probably won't cost $35. They will be much sturdier that the wooden set and you can adjust their height for uneven surfaces. The other thought is an HTC mobile base. They are wonderful and you can swing that big around your garage like your "square dancin'" with it.
true, i been toying with that idea this last week actually. I was gonna go into one of the local Delta dealers and see if i can find some.
that wooden set i put on there came from a few scraps i had laying around and i put a T nut with a bolt on the bottom of foot to make them adjustable :)
JD
JDorn:
Biesemeyer will sell you direct. I also found a black pair of Biesemeyer legs for $25 at the local Delta Factory Repair Center and Store here in Addison, Illinois.
Bob
Have a close look at it , work all the controls, full travel on all items, take electrical friend with you to temp wire to 220v and check it out. Price? start out at $500 tested running, $350 without. If its clean and sweet and you can get great use out of it then buy it.
I'd recommend you see the saw run before purchasing, but if the price is right I'd purchase it "sight unseen".
It shouldn't cost more than about $300 for an electrician to run a 220 volt line to your garage, and adding a plug on the end of the cord is trivial. It will be a locking type, and one that you can't put into a "normal" 110 volt receptacle. At least I'd make it locking.
John
EW I have a 10" Unisaw with a Unifence on wheels and I love it. About 3 years ago I gave over $2200.00 tax included for it. You have an option of 110 or 220 volts power, I opted for the 220 and haven't regretted it. When I power up my lights don't dim and I've never kicked a breaker. If there is some question about ownership my first question to you how well do you know the person who has possession of the saw now. If you know him well enough to trust him that it is not a scam, buy it, however if you don't know him be cautious. Property with a lien against it can be repossessed and you could lose any money you had in it. I find it hard to believe if someone owned the saw outright they would walk away from it. I own some rental property and the only thing my departing renters have left is a mess for me to clean up.
As far as condition of the saw look at it real good the overall appearance should tell if it has been abused. You can wire it up for 110 and check it out to see if it runs. If the motor is out they cost about $350. for a 3hp single phase. If it has a 3 phase motor on it you probably will buy a new motor instead of installing 3 phase electric also.
You could ask the landlord for the persons name that owned the saw, give him a call. It might save you some woe and money.
Gods Peace
les
Well the ownership was on the up and up, and i'm a friend of mr Weiss :)
I just finished having a few beers while reassembling the saw in my garage and doing some rudimentary cleaning and tuning to the saw and i must say, it sure is pretty. Unisaw for 700 bucks, not a bad deal if i must say so, i attached a few pics, though the one of the table top shows i still have some work to do :)
Anyone know if the 10' contractors saw can be wired to run 220? I am having the garage powered up this week, and would like to run the saw off of 220 if possible.
Thanks
What is the model number of your saw? i can go lookup the manual, i know most manuals have a wiring diagram towards the back that shows the 110 and 220 wiring schemes of the motors.
JD
Will have to let you know when I get home. It is the new "Limited Edition" with the Unifence.
doh, i think that's 36-462, but when i search for its manual online it says its not available, just check the back of your owners manual. it should have the info you need.
JD
Look at the motor's nameplate. It will show voltage and the associated full-load current. Voltage will be shown as 115V and/or 230V.Be seeing you...
You did good. I looked for a used Unisaw for a long time, the Houston Chronicle Classified my main source. I saw only one advertised it was in a commercial shop 10 years old I believe and around a thousand dollars. I opted to buy a new one.
Our WW tools are the cheapest part of our affliction, materials are our biggest cost. You paid $700. for the saw. I spent more than that on materials to build one of my daughters a bookcase out of oak.
I hope you enjoy yours as much as I enjoy mine.
Gods Peace
les
Thanks to the help of a few other knotheads i got my 20 amp 220 V circuit for the saw ran out to my shop last night, and now the saw is purring along like a kitten, I already am in love with that machine :)
And i hear what you are saying about materials, a few months back i told my wife i'd build her a maple sewing cabinet for our 1st anniversary, and here i sit after spending 150 on hardware and almost 500 on maple boards :)
JD
Edited 7/23/2003 8:30:36 AM ET by JDorn
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