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   forestgirl | Jan 14, 2005 09:18am | #1

   Amazon occasionally has pricing mistakes pop up on their web site, so be very careful.  I would send them an e-mail immediately and make sure you're getting what you thought you ordered (also, if you got a confirmation email, read it carefully). 

   BTW, the TP series comprises the older models of Delta planers, the original 12" benchtop, which is pretty outdated, and the reliable, ubiquitous 12.5" with headlock.  I think the model number used to be 22-560.  Nothing crappy about that planer, although it's certainly not the tank that the new DeWalt is, or a stationary planer.  But as far as I know, it was the platform for the 2-speed planer you're hoping to get.

   forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
   Another proud member of the  "I Rocked With ToolDoc Club" .... :>) 

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   Dustmight | Jan 14, 2005 03:27pm | #2

   $285 for the 22-580 is about as good of a deal as you'll find right now...you probably don't want to hear about Lowe's clearance prices from last summer!  Mine's been a good machine so far. Enjoy!

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   woodhoarder | Jan 14, 2005 09:18pm | #3

   Jimbo-

   $285, $309, $345... Bottom Line: BUT IT! I recieved the 22-580 as an anniversary present 2 years ago and LOVE IT! Rock solid cutterhead, minimal snipe, easy to replace the knives, and the 2 speed feed kicks butt- it has devoured everything I have thrown at it; White oak, locust, cocobolo. I built a mission style crib for my daughter this past spring, and combined with a $20 set of digital calipers, the false mortises for the slats fit so perfectly I almost didn't use glue! lol.  This machine is easily capable of tolerances in the thousandths.

   Make sure you have a sturdy surface to place it on, though. And don't plan on moving it too often. The sucker is heavy.

   Enjoy!

    

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   Jimmbo | Jan 14, 2005 09:25pm | #4

   Thanks - the feedback I'm getting is all very positive on that machine, which is comforting since I already committed to the purchase.  I can't wait to get it in the shop and make some wood chips.  FYI, Amazon today confirmed shipment, so I guess it is all a go and there is no price issue.  Luckie me!

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   nikkiwood | Jan 15, 2005 09:01am | #5

   I have one which I bought maybe four years ago; I use it as a second planer, so it does not get a really heavy work load. But it is a good planer, and yes it is heavy. The price you got is terrific; I bought mine for $400 as a reconditioned machine from the factory service center. It replaced the older 12 1/2" model, which I liked a lot. It was way more portable than the 580, but without the bells and whistles -- which I never use anyway. I urge people to buy the older model if they are going to schlepp it around -- it is lighter, the blades are cheaper, and I think it fully equals the performance of the 580.

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   forestgirl | Jan 16, 2005 03:52am | #6

   Nikki, since you've owned both planers, am I correct in thinking that the 2-speed is fundamentally the same machine as the older 12.5" single-speed?  but with 2 speeds, and a couple extra measureing gizmoes thrown in?  (How do you speel the plural of "gizmo" anyway?)forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)Another proud member of the  "I Rocked With ToolDoc Club" .... :>) 

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   nikkiwood | Jan 16, 2005 05:14am | #8

   No, I wouldn't say quite that they are fundamentally the same machines. The 580 is quite a lot bigger, and certainly much heavier -- and as you note, the 580 has two speeds, and a thickness guage (neither of which I ever use, but might be handy for some). Beyond that, I have never poked around in the guts to see if there were differences.I ran the 12 1/2" until the bearings were pretty far gone. The Delta rep said the cost of bearing replacement was such that I would be better off getting another machine. Still, I had this machine for perhaps four years, and even though I ran a lot of stuff through it, I didn't think the bearings should go that quickly.Maybe the 580 is better built, but I would suspect they use the same bearings. In any event, the planing job it does is no better than I got with the older machine. Fortunately, I don't need to carry a planer to job sites, but if I did, I would certainly prefer the older Delta.[I alsways thought the plural of gizmo was "gizmos", but if I remember the rules of grammar correctly, I think your spelling is probably right]

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   forestgirl | Jan 16, 2005 08:15pm | #9

   "I didn't think the bearings should go that quickly."  No kidding.  They should at least be affordable and relatively easy to replace.forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)Another proud member of the  "I Rocked With ToolDoc Club" .... :>) 

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   wobeba | Jan 16, 2005 04:48am | #7

   Been using mine for over two years now. It performs well on everything, and it has been outstanding on some 8/4 rough, quartersawn curly oak and beech.

   Only beefs about it are the dust collector hood has a tendency to clog on softer hardwoods (NO, I'm not taking too aggressive a pass) and the "slop" in the headstock crank mechanism (minimal, but certainly not crisp).

   Bottom line: Good machine. If yours come with the Scott Phillips video (was that who it was?) then watch it. It simplifies using the lock knob for minimum depth of cut.

   Hope your purchase comes with an extra set of blades. Oh yeah, the rubber mounting pad for the knife blade tool is glued onto the blade cover. The glue is inadequate, so just pry the whole rubber thing off the blade cover and store the tool  in a drawer. Otherwise you'll lose the tool for sure!

   Use earmuffs!