Density of saturated Douglas Fir
I’m working on the design for an irrigation diversion structure. The structure will hold 12-feet long boards, or steel “C” Channels. The design/function means that the these boards will be constantly submerged.
My boss and I are arguing about whether it will be better to use elevation control boards, that are 4X12 rough sawn Douglas Fir, or steel “C” channel. His concern with the channel is the weight of the channel.
I think that a saturated Douglas Fir board that big will weigh about the same as the weight of the channel.
I haven’t been able to find a density of saturated Douglas Fir.
Does anyone know, or have a reference that will tell me?
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I mill DF and Western Red Cedar every day I'm not playing forester, build boats with it, and write the occasional technical article.
http://www.woodcentral.com/cgi-bin/readarticle.pl?dir=smalser&file=articles_737.shtml
Here's one on marine glues. You'll see after over 12 months of fresh-water soaking, raw Western Red cedar refuses to rise above 24% EMC. Doug Fir behaves identically. We use moored DF-framed work boats to recover submerged logs, only pumping the rainwater out of them when we use them. The painted lower DF framing stock submerged almost 9 months out of the year rarely rises above 19% EMC.
So even with a dry SG of .48 to WRC's .32 (denser woods generally have higher EMC's), I seriously doubt if you paint those boards they will saturate much above 25% EMC. It's only 30% EMC in the heartwood of most logs.
Be sure to use only heartwood for your project. I'm not sure the type of paint matters, but I do know that painting makes a difference. In solid-wood boats I prefer inexpensive oil-based alkyd floor enamels like Kelley Moore Tredcoat Industrial Floor enamel.
Edited 9/21/2007 4:15 pm by BobSmalser
My little black book (Glover's Pocket Ref) tells me that Douglas Fir has a specific gravity of 0.53 and weighs 33 pounds per cubic foot, but it doesn't say whether that's wet or dry.
Hope that helps a little bit...
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