Hi All,
I’m considering a kinda upgrade from my Delta Contractors TS to the DeWalt Hybrid. I need a bit more power and space and this fits both. I wish I had room for a cabinet saw but not now.
So how do you that have them like them? I understand it takes some tyime to assemble. Hows the finished product? Hows the experience with runout? Run out is where I’m seeing problems with Deltas. Mines .010 at the blade and even my Forrest WW2 gives an average cut.
Any thoughts appreciatted.
W
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W,
You may want to look at a cabinet saw, not another contractor saw. The Hybirds are really all just that. However the new Ridgid looks really good. If you are really nuts and feel like you have nothing to loose search for "Unisaw arbor runout" on this forum. I was able to fix the runout on my saw using a little redneck engineering. Now it is as good as any Ive seen.
Mike
Great work Mike!
I was attempting someting like that. I had set up a small HSS graver and was trying to find a safe way to shave a bit off. I have .001 at the arbor flange and .010 at 1" in from the rim of the Forrest WW2. I'm starting to think it's more the blade than the saw.
I'm gonna try the machinist square with a abrasive approach you illustrated and se eif I can get it better.
I'll post back my results.
W
PS I couldn't even find a DeWalt in stock around here so I'll stick with the Delta for now.
w
Mike!
Wow that was the solution I was looking for. By using some psa backed 180 grit I was able to get the runout to less than .000 as that was as close tolerant my Starrett dial indicator goes. I stuck the sandpaper on the flats of the machinists suqare and slowly, over about 3 min utes let it grind till I felt no bumps.
Oh yea the FWW2 now measures less than .001" at 1" from the rim! Indicator barely moved at all.
thanks!
W
WOW,
I am cracking up right now. I can't believe anyone would have ever tried that hairbrained idea. Well, other than me that is. Remember that .001 at the flange would be multiplied by the radius of the blade. I'm glad it worked for you. I'm more glad that you didn't get hurt. LOL That is the last thing I need on my concience. Though I never really felt that it was dangerous. Of course that is comming from an adreneline junky.
Mike
please excuse my spelling.
"I wish I had room for a cabinet saw but not now."
Are you sure you don't have room for a cabinet saw? I upgraded from a Craftsman Contractor Saw to a Powermatic Cab with the shorter 30" fence about 4 yrs ago and have it sitting in the the same space in my garage. Space was an issue for me too so I got complete measurements before I bought the PM. The overall footprint was not all that different. If I remember correctly, the Front-to-back size of the Contractor was actually a tad greater due to the motor hanging off the back. I think the width of the PM was something like 4-6" longer (it's been a while, so I could be wrong.)
My only complaint is that I wish I'd made the switch sooner.
Whatrix,
I'm a weekend woodworker making pieces generally for my family and about to embark on new kitchen cabinets for daughter and son-in-law. I bought the Dewalt about 10 months ago. Upgraded from the Dewalt portable table saw. The differece is amazing. I got the 30" rails and two cast iron extensions. My shop is in the cellar and the saw is integrated into a 7' X 8' work table. Because of the space and location of the table I can rip a 4' X 8' piece of plywood the long way.
Now, about the saw.
I wish it had a 4" dust port.
The fence is good but is difficult to clamp a jig to because of the profile.
Setup did take a long time, about 5 hours, but that was possible because I worked very slowly to make sure I got it right. Everything was there and I had no problems.
The splitter cannot be used with a zero clearence insert, which I prefer to use even with a dado blade.
Runout, I'm not sure. I'm not that exacting but I have had no trouble with my cuts fitting together.
The miter gage isn't very good. I replaced it with an Inca. I don't use it very much anyway. I use a cutoff sled in most cases.
Do I like the saw, absolutely. Considering what I had before this was a wonderful upgrade.
Hope this is helpful
ASK
It's hard for me to imagine that the Grizzly 1023S would take up much, if any, more room than the DeWalt hybrid. They both have 30" rails, and they're both going to come close to the same amount of space as a contractor's saw when you factor in the motor hanging out the back of those.
For about $50 more with the 1023S, you'd get a saw that has over twice the horsepower, is a real cabinet-saw configuration with all the stability and ease of adjustment they bring, a real horse, as they say. And, down the line when you have more room, you can get longer rails if you want. There's no info on the DeWalt web site about the size of the table, but there can't be much difference between it and the 1023.
I think the reason people assume that cabinet saws take up so much more room than contractor's saws is because they're used to seeing them with 50+" rails. Not necessary.
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