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   Dave45 | Oct 30, 2006 03:19pm | #1

   You'll need full extension glides for the drawers.  The length of the glides will be dictated by the dimensions of the table and the depth of the drawers (front to back) depends on the glide length.  Google "Full Extension Drawer Glides" and you should be buried in information.

   If you want to get a little fancy, Blum makes a line of bottom mount, full extension glides that are totally hidden by the drawer box.  They're expensive, but would be a great choice for a furniture application.  They also have a "self-closing" feature that's really neat.

    

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   gedaliahblum | Oct 30, 2006 03:36pm | #3

   So I aready made the table, is there any way to cut these down to size if I order them?

   Is there a way to make wooden slides that let you get full extention?

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   TWG | Oct 30, 2006 04:00pm | #4

   If there is room under the table you can build the drawer sides to extend beyond the drawer back so that the drawer can be fully exposed but the drawer sides are still under the table.

   TWG

   P.S. I don't believe it is possible to cut commercial drawer slides.  

   Edited 10/30/2006 9:07 am ET by TWG

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   mwenz | Oct 30, 2006 04:04pm | #5

   If you have the table made already, the Blum undermounts are the way to go as they will have little impact on the table as regards alterations.

   Hope you charged for the addition as it will be a little bit of a pain to do.

   Full extention wood slides are doable, but they would need to be side mount. They also would most likely require new drawers or heavily modified drawers and they would look like crap when extended.

   Though you may have sticker shock when you see the price of the undermounts, it would be the most cost effective manner to add them to this table--which I think is a mistake on the part of the client in the first place if what you made is like the design.

   Take care, Mike

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   Dave45 | Oct 30, 2006 11:36pm | #8

   I've never seen a drawer glide that could be cut down (at least not easily), but they usually come in various lengths so it's just a matter of picking the longest glide that will fit into the space you have to work with, then build your drawer boxes to fit.

   I've made wooden runners that are essentially a long piece of wood with a rabbet and run my drawer boxes on them.  This can actually work pretty well if you rub an old candle on the sliding surfaces from time to time.  This method lets you make any length of drawer/runner you can fit into the piece.  They're also full extension..........plus.  Get a little exuberant when you pull one open and it can spill it's contents all over your feet - lol.

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   DougF | Oct 30, 2006 03:21pm | #2

   There are several lines of full-extension drawer guides.  If the drawer depth is made shorter than the maximum depth available, with a full-extension drawer guide the entire drawer will be visible when fully extended. 

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   Ricks503 | Oct 30, 2006 08:05pm | #6

   Blum makes full extension and some over extension slides. or you can make the drawer a bit shorter and put it on a full extensipn slide and get some extra extension that way.

    

    

   " There'll be no living with her now" - Captain Jack Sparrow

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   billballeza | Oct 30, 2006 11:23pm | #7

   Its ironic your surname is Blum. A company by the same name makes the slide you're looking for.. just google "Blum drawer slides".

   They might even be kinfolk of yours.

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   DaleJr | Oct 31, 2006 07:30am | #9

   Both Blum & Hettich make full extension undermount slides that would work. The standard sizes are 9,12,15,18 & 21 inch. Cutting the slide would not work. The drawer boxes need to be 3/8 smaller OD than the drawer opening, i.e. if you have a 15 inch opening your box should be 14 5/8 inch wide. The slides retail for about $50/pair.

   Dale

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   Jfrostjr | Oct 31, 2006 03:38pm | #10

   Go wth Blum! I was impressed by the Hettich web site and ordered several sets. After three tries I returned the various pieces they sent to me. They never did get the correct combination of parts. I believe they are only set up to supply volume manufacturers where orders are placed by each individual component part number - and we don't have access to those numbers. FrostyP.S. The Blum undermounts are a snap to install and work flawlessly.

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   EF | Oct 31, 2006 09:23pm | #11

   You didn't ask but I really don't think this design will look good with drawers, they will have to be very minimal, not that you may have a choice...
   Edward

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   gedaliahblum | Oct 31, 2006 09:30pm | #12

   I spoke with the client and told him that the drawers will not extend all the way. I am in Israel and have a lot of trouble finding specialty hardware. In addition, I am not charging enough to buy 50 dollar drawer slides. By the way, when quoting a job to you tell the client that the drawer slides cost that must and add accordingly? Or just charge for them without telling them where some of the money is going? I decided to make the slides myself, out of wood. I'll keep youposted with some pics in a few days. I hope to get the color they want on it soon.

    

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   Ricks503 | Oct 31, 2006 11:31pm | #13

   When I have something like that, I will advise them that the hardware needed to comply with this request would be $xyz or ( as in this case ) say something like  "The size of the drawer is not really practical and the added cost to make it as you want would add $xyz to the cost" and let them decide - That quoted cost in the last statement would be the cost of the hardware annd the cost in labor and materials to make and install the drawer. 

    

   " There'll be no living with her now" - Captain Jack Sparrow

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   Dave45 | Nov 02, 2006 06:18am | #14

   I always ask if they want normal or full extension drawer glides - but don't get into a lot detail about cost differential.  If the customer asks about invisible glides (or if I think that may be important to them), I'll suggest the Blumotion glides.

   Personally, I think the Blum & Hettich self closing glides are a bit of overkill.  I've only used them in some very expensive cabinets in multi-million dollar homes.

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   Anon | Nov 02, 2006 10:09pm | #15

   FWW #117 that has an article on making full extension drawer slides entirely from wood with interlocking sliding dovetails. The website indicates it's no longer in print but maybe you can lay hands on it. I recall thinking it was a very well-designed slide when I read it again recently.

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   Ricks503 | Nov 03, 2006 07:58pm | #16

   What was the article? - in looking at the table of contents for that issue online, I cannot see which one it would be. 

    

   " There'll be no living with her now" - Captain Jack Sparrow

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   Anon | Nov 03, 2006 08:21pm | #17

   Well, now I can't find it at home to double check, but the online index indicates that Karen Robertson had an article starting on p. 56 titled All-Wood Extension Drawer Slides. I read it in the last month or so and I'm pretty sure that's the one even though I can't find the magazine at home right now. The index describes the article as "Telescoping dovetails support a fully opened drawer with style," and that matches my recollection. #143 also has an article by Christian Becksvoort with wooden drawer slides, although I don't think they are full-extension.