To All
Looking for an answer to an odd question on dust collection.
I set up a nice central system with a Penn State Cyclone.
The system works fine.
I have a seperate building that I would like to have a collector in,
but don’t want to spend the money for a second system.
What I’m thinking of doing is to pipe from one building to another.
I have a small 1hp portable Delta Collector.
If I put this in the seperate building as a booster to pick-up the
dust and pump it into the pipe to the main collector, will this work?
I don’t want to buy the pipe and experiment till I have an idea if
this isn’t crazy.
We’re talking about 50ft between buildings.
Any thoughts on this?
Jeff
Replies
Hey Jeff,
My 1/2 cent worth says 50 feet is too far for any dust collector thats not considered commercial grade. A straight run and the collector just inside the building I think would still be pushing it. My table saw is the farthest tool from the dust collector and the suction reduction is significant compared to the closer two tools.
Love Vermont, my parents lived there for 11 years. Miss it.
Enjoy, Roy
In theory, there's nothing wrong with what you propose. It's no different than using booster pumps on long pipe runs for transporting other fluids. But unlike booster pumps on long pipelines, the blowers are badly mismatched in size and flow, so the small blower unit will limit the flow rate, and the large unit will be underworked. You also don't want the small one to move more air than it's designed to move, or you risk overloading the motor. Using a large duct with a small flow will allow the chips to settle out, so a small duct (like 5") is probably best. Try to keep air speed at 3500 to 4000 fpm. With fan curves and data on the ducting, you could do a pretty good job, but without such things, the best you can do is guestimate, and monitor current draw on the two DC motors (especially the small one). You may find that the performance is the same with larger duct and no booster fan. No way to tell without more detail.
Be seeing you...
Edited 2/18/2003 10:03:27 AM ET by Tom Kanzler
Possible: Yes
Feasible: Probably
Without a lot more information about your specific fans (as mentioned, you'll need fan curves, etc), and a LOT of planning to determine where the booster should be placed to ensure no settling, etc, it's hard to say.
My biggest concern would be your 1hp's ability to pick up dust in the remote location - a 1 hp simply will no generate enough static pressure at the appropriate velocity to service more than 1/2 very short runs.
I'd go with a 2nd unit, but that's just me...
Doug
The 1 HP probably won't make it as a booster even if you go for your paycheck on some extremely low friction piping. This stuff is expensive and I believe would eventually plug up. Would the piping be outdoors? If you're in a cold climate condensation and heat drop at the destination would also be an issue. I would go with a second system/collector.Windy Wood
From the Helderberg Mountains
To All
My general thinking was to place the small Delta 1hp unit right near
my planer in another building.
Then to pipe to my full shop with either 4 or 5 inch pipe right into
a y branch at my Penn State 2 hp cyclone.
I don't have any performance curves for either units and no easy way to measure flow.
I might be able to get the distance smaller, depending on what I can
do for direct shots.
My thought was using the small unit as a booster.
That's about all I have for now.
Jeff
This forum post is now archived. Commenting has been disabled