Dust Collector with Automatic Switch
I have purchased a Jet Dust Collector Model DC-1200CK with the optional remote control. I love the dust collector, but I have a problem. I want to plug the dust collector into my “auto switch” (its a device that will notice when I turn on my tablesaw and will automatically turn on my dust collector). Here’s a link to it. http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?FamilyID=5855 The problem is that the remote control feature of the Jet dust collector interferes with the automatic switch device and won’t turn on the dust collector.
Is there any way I can disable the remote control feature (or remove it) of my dust collector and get it to work with my auto switch? Any help would be MUCH appreciated!!
Todd
Dallas, TX
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Todd,
Unfortunately Jet has virtually no information on their web site about this machine, no parts list or manual seems to be available yet. From looking at one of their other dust collectors with a remote control, they have a box on their machines that would contain both the remote control unit and almost certainly some form of a magnetic switch. The problem isn't with the remote control actually, it is with the magnetic switch.
A magnetic switch can't be left permanently "on", every time the power to it is cut off by the automatic switch the magnetic switch resets itself to the off position and can then only be switched on again either manually or with the Jet remote control.
The only solution will be to wire the automatic start switch into the control box of the Jet DC. It would be connected to the same terminals that the remote control uses, but the actual wiring would be determined by the layout of the switch, so I can't give you any advice on how to go about the job.
John White, Shop Manager, Fine Woodworking Magazine
Todd,
I have the DC-1100, not the 1200, so things might be different, but the Wiring Diagram in the Operating Instructions and Parts Manual for the 1100 shows the remote control unit connecting to the incoming cord from the power and the outgoing cord to the motor by simple wire nuts. So it should be relatively easy to reconfigure the connections and bypass the remote control to take it out of the circuit. That said, doing it would mean you would have effectively dedicated the dust collector to the table saw only. If you have any other users for it, you'll have complicated things for those users.
In any case, there is a more important consideration. According to my manual, the DC-1100 requires a 20 amp circuit. Your DC-1200 would require that much or more. However, the "auto switch" you link to is rated at only 15 Amps max. There may be similar switches that have higher ratings, but a moderate Google search didn't come up with any. I think you might have to get into the industrial or homebrew areas to find something with a suitable rating.
Sorry I can't be more help.
Dan
THANKS John and Dan! Now I remember why I was not an EE major in college!! I'll pull out the wiring diagrams and see if I can make sense of it. If not......time to call an electrician!
All: I'm in the same boat with you except that my Delta single stage collector does not have a built in remote.
I apologize for butting-in since your application is different but since we're on the issue of remote operation of dust collector and table saw perhaps someone can help.My question is a bit different and the answer is probably quite simple but I'm electrically "challenged".
My table saw requires 220V and is on a dedicated 30 amp circuit and my dust collector operates on 110V on a 20 amp circuit. I doesn't seem to me that the switch I saw on the web-site you mentioned would work since it's not rated for a 220 V use. Would a different type of remote switch have to be used i.e. one where I'd need a separate handheld remote that would activate the remote switch plugged into a 110V wall outlet into which I'd plug-in the dust collector? The result would be turning the saw on and then hitting the remote to turn on the collector (not as convenient but it would save steps). Any thoughts would be appreciated. Again my apologies for a question "off-track" from what you're asking. Thanks.
Todd,My apologies for getting your hopes up. I should have looked more closely at the DC-1200 before I replied. Now that I have, I see that it has a 230V motor instead of the 115V motor on the DC-1100. So I don't see any way the automatic switch you linked to could be used for this service; it's 115V only.I found a manual for the DC-1200 that I could download, but it didn't have any information on the remote control, so I'm not sure if there are any significant differences from the DC-1100. I suspect they're pretty much the same. But even if they are, the problem would still be finding an equivalent for the automatic switch that would work on 230V. There is probably something commercially available, but my guess is it would cost more than you'd want to spend, so I think you're into the homebrew area. By the way, in that regard it might help to know what table saw are you using.I'll Google around and see if I can come up with something. I'll let you know. Again, sorry to bring bad news. Dan
TF, I am faced with a similar set up with dust gates to remotely start a 3hp. 220v. cyclone. It is apparent that you can't have it both ways. The cyclone MFG (JDS) ships two switches, a magnetic mounted on the unit and a mechanical switch in a separate package. If you use gate controlls to a switched power outlet you mount the mechanical switch, leave it in the on position, plug it into the switched power outlet and when you open that gate the outlet provides power.
You may be able to provide two power sources to the DC but you need to talk to one of the electric smart folks. It looks like over kill to me. If I had a remote start DC I would not need the gate system . good luck,Paddy
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