We want the frameless “Euro” look out at the fronts, both doors and drawerfronts.
That means nice even 1/8″ margins between edges. Easily achieved with frameless carcases and the Blum hinges I prefer.
And no, we don’t want inset doors and drawerfronts. Won’t match the look we want to achieve.
But I’ve a cabinet builder, and I really want to work with this guy, who greatly prefers to build his carcases with face frames.
So, if you are a cabinet maker, and faceframed is your preferred method, what hinge and stile width do you use, to get the “full overlay” look.
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Blum sells hinges for face frame installations that have all the adjustability of their frameless cabinet hinges. Check the Compact 38N series at your Blum supplier.
These hinges are integrated with a plate that attaches to the inside of the frame. One bunch has models for overlays from 3/8" to 3/4", and another for overlays from 1" to 1-9/16". The 3/4" overlay screw-in hinge is Model 38N3550.12, for example. That should give you and your cabinet maker plenty of leeway to satisfy both your preferences.
Blum also has some drawer front adjusters that are great for making left-right and up-down adjustments of up to 1/8".
Edited 3/4/2005 4:01 pm ET by Donald C. Brown
I use these hinges a lot. They have a plate that mounts on the front of the face frame and has a 1 3/8" or more overlay. They also have no interference with the opening so you can use pull out shelves with no problems.
Mikeplease excuse my spelling.
But I've a cabinet builder, and I really want to work with this guy, who greatly prefers to build his carcases with face frames...
Just tell him YOU LIKE HIS WORK and WORK with YOU!
I am assuming these are new cabinets and you want the overlay style of the frameless euro hinges. If so. I would recommend using Blum 125 degree "Plus" hinges and a 6mm face frame plate. This will give you a 1/2" overlay. (These hinges if used with a "0mm" plate can give you a full 7/8" overlay) The reason for these hinges is that many of the door edge details need to be bored 23.5 mm from the edge or you will drill through the edge detail. The "Compact 33" hinges that Blum sells are ok, but the gaps from the face of the frame to the back face of the door are larger, along with their reveals betwwen doors
By the way, 125 degree hinges are not the same as 125 degree "plus" hinges. They practically look the same, but the overlay is different.
If these are existing cabinets, then you could have a nightmare on your hand. Mainly because"most" production cabinet installers never install perfectly square, level, and plumb. This is the main drawback to frameless hinges/cabinets. I'm not saying "all" installers, but most of the reface jobs that I have done over the years need alot of tweaking just to get them to barely look good.
In not exactly sure what you want.
You like the cabinet maker and euro cabs but he only builds f/f cabs.
or you want the "look" of euro cabs with a f/f cab. Im thinking like others here. Either go with a euro cab maker or your gonna have to order your doors oversized.
I built something simular and used 1 1/2" rails and 2 1/2 stiles. The 1 1/2 " with a 3/4 ply caracase means you can add 3/4 " shims to the inside of the cab to add the either full o/l or 3/4 o/l hinges.
I think that should answer your question....
what spud said
Ron, I am constantly amazed by your absolute ignorance and your ability to bring any thread straight into the toilet.
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Are you UNBANNED??? or just on Breaktime?
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