The 12″ jointer is on the way, and I have a problem. I thought it would be easy to buy a 5″ to 4″ reducer, not! It’s easy to find a 6″ to 4″ (rockler), but no 5″ to 4″. Grizzly has a metal one, but at 50 bucks, it’s time to get creative. Have any of you ever made your own, and how did you do it?
If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it.
And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
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Some time ago I found one in my local Plumbing/HVAC supply place. I remember it being under $10.00. I had to ask the clerk, but she produced just what I needed in less than 5 minutes.
Bones,
home depot had mine.. 5 inch furnace duct to 4 inch furnace duct
Duh, I did not even think of HVAC supliers. I did not think 5" was a standard size. Thanks everyone.Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
I am pretty sure Grizzley does. Check this one:
H1216 5" x 4" Reducer.
I have built them too using stove pipe and pop rivets along with a little clear duct tape.
Bones, If the reduction is from the 4" into the 5", the way the air flows, you can just make a wooden donut / bushing. That would be, if the dust hood was the 4" and you were bringing a 5" pipe to it. I am not sure about going back the other way though.
This is true, but an abrupt change in diameter will cause a significant pressure loss. Typical transitions range from about 2 to 1 to about 4 to 1 (length to diameter). At about 8 to 1, the pressure loss is almost negligible.
Non-intuitively, going from a smaller diameter to a larger diameter requires a smoother (i.e., longer) transition.
So to go from a 5" down to a 4", the 1" change should be over 8" for no pressure loss?Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
I'm not an HVAC guy, but yeah, that's about right. It's usually expressed as an angle (the half angle measured from the centerline), and you want that to be less than 8 degrees.
There's still a loss associated, but it's a lot less significant when the transition is nice and smooth. If it's too abrupt, the flow "detaches" itself from the walls and causes excess turbulence.
Of course, you're not designing a big HVAC system, so you don't need to go to extremes. But I always find it useful to know what the "ideal" solution is, and then modify it to fit my needs, if changing it is necessary.
You might also want to check out a 4" (Clay pipe) to 4" PVC fitting at HD. It's a rubber boot with hose clamps that accomodates male fittings 5" on one side , 4" on the other.
Amazon has them in plastic for under $5.00 and so does Tools Plus http://www.tools-plus.com/woodstock-w1037.html , which is where I got mine when I bought my dust collector - they also had a great price on clear 5" hose.
I bought several reducers from Oneida. The 4 to 5 steel reducer is $10.86. It may a small matter but HVAC ductwork is backwards to DC ductwork (eg crimping on the wrong end on HVAC stuff) / Al
BONES , I bought one from delta for @$20 for my Unisaw, it may be on Amazon as a Delta part but you have to poke through all their screens to find it. Paddy
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