Fax Copy of Jointer Tune-up??, Issue 142
DonaldCBrown
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I don’t have a Fax machine, but I’ve scanned the article. See attachments.
Edited in response to complaint by Uncle Dunc.
Edited 10/28/2002 3:40:19 PM ET by Donald C. Brown
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Soliciting or committing copyright violations in public strikes me as somewhat tacky, but doing so in a forum sponsored by the copyright holder is downright rude.
Dear Sysop-
Please give us Taunton's ruling on whether it is all right to post a part or a whole of a Fine Woodworking article on the Fine Woodworking forum. In the meantime, I will remove the scanned pages from my previous post.
Just to show that I'm not completely insensitive to intellectual property rights, I offer the following quote from recent news:
"And British composer Mike Batt (who issued, as a song, a minute's worth of absolute silence) caved in, paying off the estate of John Cage (composer of "4'33"" -- 4 minutes, 33 seconds of silence) in a copyright settlement."
Scott,
Ease up man! If you recall, there was a rather lengthly discussion here not too long ago about copyright laws.
Only Tauton Press can give permission to reproduce material from Fine Woodworking, and it doesn't matter how many copies you or I or anyone has purchased. Buying a copy of a publication does not give one copyrights to the published material.
Uncle D's response was for your good and that of Don. I believe you owe him a word of thanks and an apology....GEESH!
Jeff
Scott,
That too is a violation of copyright. Any reproduction requires the permission of the copyright holder.
Jeff
Edited 10/29/2002 7:23:58 AM ET by Jeff K
I hope the copyright police don't ever catch you making a copy of a book, magazine, newspaper article or any other form of written communication. Better stay away from your fax machine, copy machine, scanner, and mimeograph! What do you think they made all those machines for? I'll tell you, it wasn't to gather dust......It was to make COPIES!!
Well, if that's what you really think, I guess I've nothing more to say.
Jeff
7. CopyrightsYou are responsible for ensuring that any material you post does not violate the copyright or any other personal or proprietary rights of any third party or is posted with the permission of the owner(s) of such rights.
I could be wrong, but I can't imagine posted something from Taunton in their own forum would be construed as rude or inappropriate. There really is no third party here. At least I could not find anything that suggested, let alone stated, that Taunton Press electronically and periodically were anything but one in the same. Again, I could be wrong, but if they thought there would be a vast interest in this information, it would probably be on the Fine Woodworking home page. I don't know. Odd that no one from the powers that be spoke up here. It would be interesting to hear that point of view.
Don
Ooops. Pargraph 7 is from the policies we agreed to when registering.
Edited 10/29/2002 9:14:57 PM ET by Don C.
I agree, it's odd that no one from Taunton Press has chimed in here. I also agree that Paragraph 7 does not prohibit posting Taunton material. Nevertheless, I still believe it's inappropriate to post Taunton magazine articles here, for two reasons. First, if Taunton wanted people to have free web access to their articles, they would already be posting them. They do make a few articles available, which suggests to me that they don't want us posting the ones that they don't post. Second, this notice appears in each copy of all the magazines:
"Copyright 2002 by The Taunton Press, Inc. No reproduction without permission of The Taunton Press, Inc."
The way I read that, if Taunton Press hasn't granted explicit permission to post one of their articles on their own web site, then posting it is a copyright violation.
Now as Scott suggests, casual copying and distribution of magazine articles is a fact of modern life, but to me, posting Taunton articles without permission in this forum has something of the flavor of opening a buddy's tool box while he's standing right there, without permission, and making a call on his cell phone because yours is out in the truck. It benefits you at little or no cost to him, and he may not complain (unless you do it repeatedly), but it's wrong, and it's rude.
I'm sorry you guys feel the way you do. I should have just posted my phone number and taken care of it privately.
I thought this forum was a way for woodworkers to HELP other wood woodworkers.
Oh..One more thing.....I hope you never use a copy machine without the first expressed written permission from the auther on ANYTHING written, printed, spoken, seen, or heard. You might get a call from a lawyer. So.....just unplug it and stay away from those evil machines.
I wouldn't even pretend to know the legal finery of copyright law. But I don't think posting other's property/work on the internet is a good idea. It may innocently fill the need of one individual in this particular case, but also leaves the copyrighted article open for millions of other people to have free access. This can't be the position of Taunton Press or the author(s) of the work. It's one thing to make a copy for yourself, as in photocopy an article on Jointer setup so you don't have to take your magazine to the shop and get it all dirty, but I think the line is crossed when you start copying/sharing articles with friends, family, or strangers on the internet.
GC
I have to agree that it is rather ambiguous, but there is no 3rd party here. I also don't know the in's and out's of copyright law.
Don
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