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   RMillard | Dec 14, 2007 02:09pm | #1

   I think you are talking about the Steve Latta table. I only briefly looked at the article so I can't recall how he did it.

   On the card tables I've made like that, I cut a shallow notch at the locations of the front legs in the apron, inside and out; the leg had a slot in it that corresponds to the thickness left in the apron from those notches. This is a modified bridle joint and is very secure when glued ( and pretty secure without glue, due to the shoulders).

    I have also cut the face side with angled shoulders, to create a dovetail like joint. I used this for a card table where the legs were flush with the apron and I thought this might keep the joint from telegraphing through the veneer. I'm not sure it was necessary and it complicated the joinery a bit.

   Both ways are historically accurate

   Rob Millard

   http://www.americanfederalperiod.com

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   Talma | Dec 14, 2007 10:11pm | #3

   Steve makes the dovetail joint your talking about (I think it's in the FWW article) He explained that he has never had to fix the veneer on a table with the joint like that, but has had to fix the joint on square jointed legs.

   He also said it's rare that he's fixed a table that's had the veneer "toothed" if that's the right term, so he teaches to do both,

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   RMillard | Dec 15, 2007 05:18am | #5

   Talma,

   The dovetail like joint, would have the effect of preventing the lifting of the veneers at the front legs, but you still have the two back legs that are susceptible to failure.

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   I’ll take his word for the toothing, but it seems to me to violate the basic principal of a glue joint, that there must be good wood to wood contact, so I have never used it.

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   danmart | Dec 15, 2007 05:30am | #6

   Rob

   Have you ever used one of the vacuum press deals for your veneering?? I have use lots of clamp set ups and had good results but recently I had a chance to use another builders small vacuum press set up. It is a nice way to go. I'm considering building a small set up and doing some veneer panels again.

   Any thoughts??

   Dan

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   RMillard | Dec 15, 2007 07:30am | #7

   Dan,

   I'm a dedicated hammer veneerer; so much so, that I've never seriously considered a vacuum press.  I think I was born in the wrong century!

   Rob Millard

   http://www.americanfederalperiod.com

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   danmart | Dec 15, 2007 05:33pm | #8

   Hammer Veneer

   I've done a bunch myself and I like hide glue. I was thinking of doing some large panels and the veneer press(vacuum) seemed like a good system. Still in the planning mode.

   later

   dan

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   mwenz | Dec 15, 2007 06:28pm | #9

   I too like hammering...but often I use liquid hide glue or epoxies. For either, I use one of those inexpensive Roarockit vacuum presses. the roller in the pic is actually for pressing the seal tape. I've since switched to clamoing the end of the bag shut between two cauls.

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   Take care, Mike

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   RMillard | Dec 16, 2007 06:38am | #10

   Dan,

   I see the vacuum press as ideal for large flat panels. If I did a significant amount of such work, I'd have one.

   Rob Millard

   http://www.americanfederalperiod.com

    

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   Talma | Dec 14, 2007 10:07pm | #2

   Rob is absoulutly correct the joint with glue is pleanty strong enough to hold the leg on.

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   user-172496 | Dec 15, 2007 03:46am | #4

   Thanks for your reply's all of you. I have made the dove tail and the bridal, and I will glue it as Talma say's I was going to do just that, but just wanted to make sure. Thanks again.

   Jack