I am attempting to design a computer desk. It seems that all the computer desk designs in the world lack either one thing I want or another – so I am designing one myself.
I am doing this in sketchup, and everything is going fine except for one thing – I am not versed enough in furniture design to finish the simplest of things.
The computer desk is going to be frame and panel. With that said I need advice and information on a few things….
1. Lumber around here is sold in 3/4 inch stock for the most part. So the frame is going to be 3/4 in thick. I need to know if a tenon that is 1/4in thick is going to be sufficient. there would be a 1/4 inch boundry (shoulder? cheek?).
2. If the tenon is 1/4 inch and the plywood I am using is 1/4 inch thick, then the groove I make would 1/4 inch thick, and I am assuming it needs to be at least 1/4 inch deep, which would then make the frame rail look a bit odd. (see photo)
3. Is there a formula or calculation I need to consider in cutting the panel in order to accomodate for expansion?
4. I would rather use 1/2 in panel, but I am afraid it would weigh a ton for starters and secondly it would then require the groove to be 1/2 in, only leaving 1/8in of material for it to set in.
5. Is there a site that I can go to that has standard furniture making dimensions, requirements, etc. such as the ones I am asking about here?
Here is one of the frame pieces I designed. the tenon is 1 inch long by 1/4 thick. The entire piece is 19 inches giving a frame face of 17 inches.
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You could cut a rabbet around the 1/2 panel so it would still fit into a 1/4 groove in the frame. It could be flush on the backside and recessed in the front, or split the difference.
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Yes, yes, no, yes, no. But, in random sequence. ;-)
The "Shrinkulator" will give you expansion/contraction figures for various wood species:
http://www.woodbin.com/calcs/shrinkulator.htm
If you are using plywood panels, seasonal movement will be much less of an issue, since only the solid wood components will be subject to movement, and due to the smaller dimensions, that movement will be relatively small. With flat panels, the thickness of the panels doesn't really matter, since they will float free and won't be structural elements. As such, 1/4" thick panels would be a reasonable choice. If you go with raised panels in solid wood, however, seasonal movement comes back into the design considerations, and your grooves will need to allow for that movement.
For a desk with multiple panels, you may want to design the rails to be full length, with longer tenons going into the corner legs, and shorter tenons (often referred to as stub tenons) on the stiles that would fit into the groove in the rails. Or, longer tenons (for greater strength) on the stiles that would fit into deeper mortises in the rails, spaced appropriately. The stub-tenon approach is often used with a relatively small, single panel that isn't subjected to much stress.
In my opinion, furniture design is a combination of style (what the piece looks like) and engineering (the joinery). There are literally hundreds of books on design, along with similar numbers of books that explore particular styles (e.g. Arts and Crafts, Greene and Greene, etc.). The Taunton book by Gary Rogowski, "The Complete Illustrated Guide to Joinery" is a good reference for the engineering element.
http://www.amazon.com/The-Complete-Illustrated-Guide-Joinery/dp/1561584010/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1349534112&sr=8-1&keywords=woodworking+joinery
Yes, yes, no, yes, no. But, in random sequence
Ralph,
That's awesome !
Sounds like something I would have said. But some how mine not as sweetly.
Tony,
Back in my day, before the internet and sharp pencils, we had these data and information storage units.
http://www.amazon.com/Nick-englers-woodworking-wisdom-Engler/dp/0762101792/ref=tmm_pap_title_0?ie=UTF8&qid=1337043802&sr=1-1
. . . read it there, read it here or read it on a half fast slapped together web site. What is the difference ?
Well the difference is some one doesn't have to keep typing it over and over in a chat room.
So . . . Mr. Nick Engler and his associates put in many a late night getting it right so I would recommend his book and a few others. if you don't find what you need let us know but it isn't a quick look and go it can take years learning this stuff. Start small, make some basic stuff then tackle the complexities of your desk. ((( or plan on giving one or two away as plant stands))).
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