Glue for outdoor use, bent lamination
I’m preparing to build a set of chairs to match a table for my back porch. Rather than having all straight parts for the chairs, I’m going to incorporate some curves and was strongly considering using bent laminations to form them. If they were for indoor use, or even covered outdoor use, I think I could use just about any water resistant glue (Titebond II, epoxy, urea??), but since they will be exposed to all elements year round, I was wondering if anybody had any recommendations. Heck, maybe no glue is suitable and I will have to drop back to the drawing board (since I’m only just now getting into the design, that’s not such a big drop). Thanks in advance for any and all suggestions!
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Epoxy...think boat! Can't get any wetter than a boat.
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Edited 1/19/2004 11:47:24 AM ET by Rick at Arch. Timber and Millwork
My concerns would be water resistance and structural creep.
Outdoors? I prefer epoxy. Best thing you can do is invest in a 2-part pump setup, then you always have it on hand and since it's convenient, it will get used. Up front $$$, but worth it in the long run.
Personally, I prefer West Systems.
For outdoor wood furniture, I also brush the bottom end grain of chair/table legs with a thinned epoxy. Somewhat seals the grain and helps prevent wicking of moisture into the leg and possible premature decay.
First, PVA adhesives are not good for bent laminations. PVA's are not creep resistant. In other words, they allow surfaces to slip past each other..
Good for outdoor use is a urea formaldehyde like DAP/Weldwood Plastic Resin. It has no creep and is highly water resistant although it can fail in totally submerge applications. Resorcinal is totally waterproof and very strong in shear applications. But, its glueline dries to a dark purple.
Finally, slow set, two part epoxy works well and it is totally waterproof. It is gap filling and can tolerate somewhat indifferent clamping.
Avoid polyurethane glues as they tend to force surfaces apart as they cure so the parts must be well clamped over their full length to develop full strength.
I build alot of outdoor stuff,I use polyurathene glue,gorilla,excell etc. Most major glue companys make one.It expands like foam when it cures,once set your glue joints will never fail. Never had a problem with creep and is totally water proof.
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