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   philip | May 20, 2005 12:37pm | #1

   Hello Malcolm,

   I have used clear quick setting epoxy for glueing ivory. Ivory "moves" like wood with moisture changes, so a degree of flexibility is desirable.
   I don't think PvA will do . Gorilla/polyurethane types would probably work-haven't tried it for this, as this is a new product to me and anyway ivory is one of the (few) things I did not bring with me!
   How big is the piece, and is it elephant ivory?

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   macalex | May 20, 2005 02:18pm | #2

   Thanks

   It's the real deal, and the piece I'm fixing into place is about 15 by 25mm, halved into the panel and shaped to match the curve of the carcase. I'll take a couple of photos when it's done.

   It's a showpiece for a charity auction.

   MalcolmNew Zealand  |  New Thinking0.06% of the world's people are Kiwis

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   user-343246 | May 20, 2005 03:40pm | #3

   "It's a showpiece for a charity auction."World Wildlife Fund or Greenpeace?-Matt

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   macalex | May 21, 2005 12:58am | #6

   "World Wildlife Fund or Greenpeace?"

   Ha! Nice one.

   Ivory and ebony both forbidden to international trade. Curious, eh? I was careful to say old ivory. This piece has been knocking around for a long time.

   Malcolm

    New Zealand  |  New Thinking0.06% of the world's people are Kiwis

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   philip | May 21, 2005 04:40am | #7

   "ivory and ebony both forbidden to world trade"- there is also mammoth ivory, which is not forbidden....
   And then again controlled ivory trade in the right hands has led to increases in jumbo populations and revenue to maintain and even expand wild life conservation parks in certain parts of Africa. Blanket policies are often short- sighted and counter- productive-same applies to timber trade.
   What was that thread again?

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   macalex | May 21, 2005 09:25am | #8

   "Blanket policies are often short- sighted and counter- productive-same applies to timber trade"

   I very nearly said something along those lines as part of my last post!

   It is generally true that putting a value on scarce resources encourages their conservation ... but then what about cod? Whole North American fisheries wiped out because cod is worth so much and is so 'easy' to catch. Or old growth native timber?

   Somehow I think the 'tragedy of the commons' is wrapped up in this argument.

   Oh dear. What did happen to that thread! And it's the boy who is the philsopher!

   MalcolmNew Zealand  |  New Thinking0.06% of the world's people are Kiwis

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   JeffHeath | May 20, 2005 05:21pm | #4

   kiwimac,

   I have one experience with ivory, and I used Roo glue to adhere a piece to my daughters jewelry box.  Still holding after 3 years with no problem.

   Jeff

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   BenM | May 20, 2005 08:00pm | #5

   I'm thinking hide glue should be good enough.  That's all that was around when using ivory in furniture was more common than it is today.

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   douglas2cats | May 21, 2005 02:54pm | #9

   Politics aside - what about skipping glue? I'm thinking ivory is solid enough to drill and tap threads, then attach with small fine thread brass machine screws from the inside??

   Waddaya mean it wont fit through the door?

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   macalex | May 21, 2005 03:19pm | #10

   " ... ivory is solid enough to drill and tap threads, then attach with small fine thread brass machine screws from the inside ..."

   Yeah. Good suggestion. Might do both!

   Malcolm

    New Zealand  |  New Thinking0.06% of the world's people are Kiwis

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   WillGeorge | May 22, 2005 10:11pm | #12

   Ivory is solid enough to kill another male elephant...  Gee should be able to do ANYTHIN' with it!

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   WillGeorge | May 22, 2005 10:09pm | #11

   I have not looked but thinkin' DO a search on reparing old pianos Ivory keys and see what hapens???

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   WillGeorge | May 22, 2005 10:45pm | #13

   ELM!  Gee we USE to have them in Chicago.. NO More.. Well Some Chinese Elms but not the same!

   ELM was a wonderful wood.. As I remember..

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   macalex | May 23, 2005 12:57am | #14

   "ELM was a wonderful wood"

   Yep. This piece actually came from Wales. It's travelled half way round the world and been sitting in my wood pile for the better part of 15 years. Some of the first projects I ever did were from elm, scored cheap from a local (Welsh) sawmill.

   I'll take some photos of this wee project when it's done.

   I like it. Not available commercially in New Zealand. For some reason elm is not that common here - even as specimen trees? Kiwis - why that, eh?

   MalcolmNew Zealand  |  New Thinking0.06% of the world's people are Kiwis