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   Lilshaver | Feb 13, 2003 03:27am | #1

   Regular butt hinges can be installed to do that. Think about it...every door in your house is hung to hang inside the frame (trim).

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   d2v | Feb 13, 2003 07:30am | #2

   Thanks, Jeff; yeah, I was looking at doors, but(t) seems like, for cabinets, if the leaf is long enough to get to the recessed door, the holes will miss the face frame. Or vice versa -- they don't reach the door. The hinge pin has to be outside the frame, right? (It would work if I mortised out in the frame for the pin and recessed the whole hinge; just looks a little odd).

   Thanks for your help.

   -- Deb

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   Lilshaver | Feb 13, 2003 09:24pm | #3

   I just did a job where I did essentially what you want to do. Mine wasn't a face frame, but "european" style where the cabinet side extended proud of the door. I used a piano hinge. Starting with a much wider hinge than I needed, I cut it down to the proper size, then drilled holes for screws (mine wasn't the pre-drilled type). I mortised into the door edge to get the spacing I wanted between the door and cabinet side. The barrel of the hinge does extend out beyond the door face, but is not too far extended out from the cabinet. I didn't want too much inset, only about 1/8 or so.

   You could accomplish the same thing with your face frame. You might have to "thicken" it in the vicinity of the hinges.

   Oh, I used steel hinges, not brass. Piano hinges of this type are commonly found at welding supply houses. They're meant to be welded on, not screwed, thus no holes. They take a bit of dressing to look really good.

   I don't know of any other way to do what you want other then fiddling with concealed euro hinges. Good luck, hope I helped a little.

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   d2v | Feb 14, 2003 03:49am | #4

   Thanks so much, Jeff -- you've at least given me the confidence to go ahead and experiment. That sounds like quite the job with the steel piano hinges. My face frame (so far just a design) is 5/4 and the door 1X, so I don't have to thicken it for a hinge.