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   Jamie_Buxton | Jan 15, 2006 03:43am | #1

   The Grizzlys have a huge footprint.   If your shop is like most of us, floor space is at a premium.   For instance, compare the Griz to the Woodsucker.  The 2 hp Woodsucker has a footprint of 20"x38".   The Griz 2 hp has a footprint of 38"x59" -- that is, three times larger!

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   ohcomeon | Jan 15, 2006 09:00am | #2

   Good point Jamie.  I'll have to take some measurements to see about fitting a cyclone in there.  One point though is that Grizzly's stand is very bulky and I was going to mount it differently, so I could take a few inches off in both dimensions, but it is still bulky.

   Woodsucker doesn't have any considerable performance figures on their site.  Have you ever seen any?

   If only I had my old garage w/ room to spare.  Of course the house was puny, but the garage, oh the garage!

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   Jamie_Buxton | Jan 17, 2006 06:47am | #4

   Call Woodsucker.   Larry Adcock will email you performance curves.   No, I don't know why he doesn't publish them on his web site.   

   I have a Woodsucker, and it works very well.

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   daryl | Jan 27, 2006 07:21pm | #6

   I have the Woodsucker. It works very well. Contacting LArry does little good; it's the worst part of his business. On the plus side, the cyclone is excellent. Performance is great. The inlet is 6", with a neutral vane integral to the design; the footprint is small. I was a bit leery of getting it over the Oneida, due to the inlet size (the Oneida is 7"), but needed the smaller size. I see no degradation in perfomance. I've used it on my table saw, shaper, jointer and planer. The only downside is the 35 gal. drum. When you are jointing or planing a reasonable amount of wood, say 50 BF and up, the drums fill quickly.Installation is easy, but you need 2 people, as the instructions clearly state. Works with no problems with a Penn State Long Ranger switch. Use an 8' run of insulated AC hose, for maybe ten bucks at HD for a return and silencer. Still, it's loud. They all are.

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   DennisS | Jan 15, 2006 07:58pm | #3

   Jake -

   I have a Grizz cyclone. I've never owned, used or even seen anything else except for the Penn State that Tom in Seattle has in his shop. Mine is the 3HP model, older by about a year or more.

   So much for the disclaimer.

   I can say it does pull a lot of air! I have yet to put blast gates on any of the machine hook-ups. I have it attached to my Unisaw and (3) 4" ducts connected (2) to the stationary sander and one to the 14" band saw. The jointer, planer and chop saw outlets are capped for the moment until I get them hooked up. I also have one 7" duct behind the lathe that I have covered except when sanding/finishing something on the lathe.

   Under these conditions it pulls essentially all the sawdust from the cabinet saw. It does a decent, but not perfect job of pulling dust off the sander. Sawdust control on the band saw is something I've yet to get arranged for the best. I cut a 4" hole in the bottom door of the saw and attached a piece of 4" dryer hose between the saw and the DC duct system. Not the best solution but there's definitely a difference between when I run the saw with the DC on and when not.

   Under these conditions I can take the cap off the outlet intended for the jointer and shovel jointer shavings in the duct and have them get sucked up with great gusto, so to speak. That's with the saw, sander ports and bandsaw port all open at the same time.

   I put mine just outside the shop wall with the ducting coming in and running across the attic space and one trunk line in a utility trench in the floor designed for this purpose. All the main trunks are 7" with 4" drops or outlets at the individual machines.

   There's no doubt that just about any cyclone system of the same power rating, etc. would work as well. I'm just passing on my observations from the one I have.

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   JoeMi | Jan 19, 2006 06:05am | #5

   Hi Ohc..

   If you go with the Griz cyclone, you will be happy, but before you place the order, have you looked at Oneida's Gorilla.  I have that one and I am very happy with it.  Right now I have a temporary set up with the piping, hopefully when I finish a couple other things in the garage/shop I will get some metal piping for DC.

   ONe really big plus with Oneida is that they will design your DC-tool piping at no charge.  They did this for me and as I stated I an doing a temp thing right now, but once I get the shop taped, mudded, and painted I am going back to Oneida for the pipe.

   HTH, JOe

    

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   43Billh | Jan 27, 2006 09:18pm | #7

   ohcomeon,

   I have Oneida's 2 hp dust Gorilla and I'm not a bit sorry!

    Outstanding machine!!

   I can't speak for Grizzly's cyclones, never tried one

   Bill

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   Glaucon | Jan 27, 2006 11:43pm | #8

   I've heard good things about both Grizzly and Oneida, but I hava low ceiling in my shop, so they would probably be too tall. Anyone else with experience with the JDS cyclones. or other smaller footprint machines?

    Glaucon

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