Okay, I know I posted this before, but this is the weekend for my trip to Springfield to visit Grizzly. If I fall in love with that 1023 I may drive it back in my wagon (if it fits) ! A couple of days ago I went to one of my local suppliers and went all over the Unisaw so I’d have a fresh comparison in my head. We’ll see…
Any suggestions for what to look at in particular? I’m going to check out the fit and finish, the action of the height and angle adjustments, the fence (Beis knock-off), dust collection, etc. I know everyone talks about the trunions, but I won’t know the difference if they are slightly less heavy duty than the Unisaw.
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Campbelldust,
You've touched all the bases, there really isn't that much to these saws...until you cut wood. When I made and started to operate a sled on the griz or cut angles with either the miter or the blade tilted....so smooth, such clean cuts..so exacting....I also like the wheels..nice and solid.
Good luck have a great time....let your wife drive home so you can hug your saw in the back...lol
Check the air pressure in your tires :-)
forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
Take a 2' straight edge with you to see if the tables and extensions are flat enough.
the trouble is that the variation between one saw (the floor model) and the one you actually get will vary.. for example my buddy sent his fence back to Delta to have them remachine it (they sent two others since the replacement was worse than the original one sent. The third one was closer and he accepted that but since he's a perfectionist remilled it himself.
All of my stuff has worked nicely right out of the box, but close is good enough for me, after all it's wood! when you see wood move as much as I have while building this timberframe you'll laugh at those who worry about a few thousands!
I agree about the tolerances, but it's nice if things are at least a little flat! :^}
Where the 'thousand's' count, Frenchy, is in how flat the table and the wings are machined front to back, if not side to side. This affects how easily one can get them aligned when they're installed. Thanks to the advice of some of the stalwart participants in this forum, I learned that you really *can* bend cast iron.
Within limits, of course (grin).
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Dennis in Bellevue WA
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It totally depends on what you are attempting to do.. If you intend to build music boxes with delicate inlays then yes you are correct such accuracy is wonderful. If on the other hand you intend to build entertainment centers, cabinets and such there is enough movement in the wood that such accuracy will be lost.
In my case I seldom shove less than an 8 foot long piece thru and often it's more like 18 or twenty feet long.. when I handle such sized pieces if all of the infeed rollers and both ends of the table are touching a taut string, I'm real happy.
I recently bought the 1023. I installed the standard Fox Shop fence, used it and took it off and installed my 42", 18-year old Bessy. The unit is very heavy and difficult to move without a lot of effort that I don't experience with the lighter unit. The dust collection design , no pun intended, sucks. They need to redesign the unit to funnel the dust to the port rather than dumping it in a pile at the base. Having said that, my dust collector may be a little underpowered. This is really not much of a problem if you get in there and move the chips to the port to clean it our. other than that, the unit it excellent.
Doug
Doug
Now that's funny, my 1023 has a nice slanted shelf to direct the dust
to the pick-up port.
A little gets around it thru the Motor cover, but not as bad as I would have thought.
Jeff
The cabinet saw review (by Kelly Mehler) in the current Woodworker's Journal indicates that dust collection is pretty poor in most of them. Don't have the mag here right now, but seem to remember that one or two of the European saws might have been significantly better, due to either location of the collection hole or presence of a shroud that partially enclosed the blade beneath the table. Griz has lots of company in this area of deficit.forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
If it's anything like their Bellingham, WA showroom, your jaw will drop. 'never seen so many different tools in one place before. 'not even close.
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