Grizzly TS guard/splitter advice sought
I’ve got a 1999 era Griz 1023Z that has the stock guard/splitter. Don’t like this arrangement at all but also don’t want to work without these components. Any of you Griz owners out there have anything you like?
-Doug
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Doug
I too am interested in the splitter part of your question. I replaced the blade guard with a shop-made overhead guard and dust collector. I have not found an after-market splitter as yet and Grizzly will not recommend any.
Doug
I'm using a combination of the Penn State Ind. overarm blade guard and the Microjig MJ Splitter. Total cost under $200. I'm happy with the setup, the above-blade dust collection makes a huge difference, and it's a universal fit for any TS. Look at the Grip-Tite splitter also.
Doug
I use a Beisemeyer splitter and an overhead PSI guard and dust collector.
They work great for me.
Jeff
Thanks guys, I appreciate the suggestions and I'll check all of these out.
-Doug
Jeff -
Which Beisemeyer splitter did you get that fits? Did you have to do any modifications? Thanks.
Dale
Duck
Just bought the standard Beisemeyer Drop in Splitter for the Delta Unisaw.
No modifications needed, just remove the Grizzly splitter and mounting bracket, then remount the New Beisemeyer and align it.
I may have needed to add or change a bolt out that didn't fit, but seem to remember it just not being long enough is all.
I find that most Unisaw stuff fits the Grizzly without a hitch.
When I installed the Beisemeyer fence, the bolts lined up perfectly.
Grizzly tends to copy alot.
When I aligned the Splitter, I used 2 straight edges on eithe side of the blade to center and align it. Kept it parallel to the arbor washer side to account for thin kerf and normal blades.
Easy to do and works great.
To remove, you just crank down the blade and reach in with a long screwdriver and pop it free.
Yell if you have anymore questions.
Jeff
Jeff,
If you don't mind truding out to your Grizzly, tape in hand, how high does the splitter extend above the table surface and from the center of the arbor to the rear of the splitter? I would like to make sure my overhead guard will work with this before investing the time and cash.
Thanks for your assistance.
Doug
Doug
I just got in (8:30pm) and won't get a chance to check till tomarrow.
I'll post it tomarrow evening if that's ok.
I know it fit's under my PSI guard which is about 4" or so.
Jeff
Thanks Jeff.
Doug
Checked the splitter today.
Stands 3 7/8 " above the table.
From Arbor center to rear 7 1/4"
Not much room to adjust up/down as it sits just above the insert.
You could move it foreward with a washer, but not much.
Hope that helps, and just ask if you need more help.
jeff
Jeff,
Thanks for the effort and the info.
Doud
JeffinVermont- Grizzly isn't copying anyone. Delta, Grizzly, General, Jet and a bunch of others are made in the same factory in Taiwan. I assume the patents either have run out or there is an arrangement working, but the main differences are in fit/finish, supplied accessories and motor HP. If you look at many brands, the accessories are the same parts. Not all, but many. Beats having only one supplier, though.I cut this piece four times and it's still too short.
Highfigh
Didn't mean it as a slur. Just a comment.
It actually makes it easier when looking for something.
Besides, I really like my Grizzly saw.
Jeff
I didn't take it as a slur, just clarifying. I really like my saw, too. And planer, jointer and bandsaw. I just keep buying their tools because I can't see the benefit to buying Delta/Jet/Powermatic/General/fill in the blank when the dealers here are so bad when it comes to customer service. The only time there is really a decent sale on any of these brands is in Feb during the Woodworker's Show and the dealers with the best prices aren't in Milwaukee anyway. Grizzly's customer service is great as far as I'm concerned. The guy at the Delta/PC/Ryobi, etc service center closest to me doesn't seem to care one way or another if he takes care of my problems, so I have no desire ot go there. I had a question for Grizzly about how the arbor bearings come out and they e-mailed back in about an hour, with attachments. I figure that I saved about $1000 by buying from Grizzly. I haven't had a single problem. It's just a matter of finding what will work best, for the best price with the best CS. Great price with no support isn't a deal. Bad price with no CS is even worse. Good CS does have value, though.
"I cut this piece four times and it's still too short."
HighfighNo problem.When did you answer me? I just got this message and was wondering if it's a recent post or old one.I would swear that sometimes I don't get messages till a month later or never.Jeff
It wasn't long after you posted yours. The time is at the upper right of the post. I get notifications at all different times. Some are immediately after, some take a whole.
"I cut this piece four times and it's still too short."
I have been having a problem with my Grizzley 15" jointer. I have sent two e-mails to their service technicians but received no replies. Not sure I am properly sumbitting the e-mail questions. How do you communicate with them?
You should be able to contact them by sending messages to [email protected]What's wrong with it?"I cut this piece four times and it's still too short."
Edited 2/2/2005 9:14 pm ET by highfigh
Its brand new G0550 15" planer. I assembled and aligned it per the instruction manual. The very first piece I ran through it went fine. But ever since then I have been having trouble getting the stock to feed through. It seems to lock up under the chip breaker or the outfeed roller. I have aligned it 4 times now but no matter what kind or size of stock I use, the stock seems to stop at some point along the feed path. All the clearances are set as specified in the manual. The infeed and outfeed rollers are spring loaded to accommodate variations in stock thickness, same for the chip breaker. I always set the cutter head about 1/16" above the max cut setting.
This is not the kind of tool I want to try to box up and ship back to the factory or have a replacement sent to me. Phone calls to the Grizzly service techs have been well received, but nothing they have suggested so far has helped the problem. They offered to get on the phone live with me while I went through the alignment process (again) but we haven't set that up yet. What I really need is a tech or even an experienced user to stop by and look at it but apparently Grizzley does not make service calls.
Your infeed and outfeed tables(or rollers) are flat when you lay a straightedge or board through the opening with the head raised, right? If the outfeed is raised too much, the stock may try to bridge across the high areas and hit the casting on the outfeed side. You won't see it from the front, but it will definitely try to stop the stock. Check this and then call customer service to talk to someone while you go through their list.
"I cut this piece four times and it's still too short."
Jeff -
Thanks for all the info. Helped me make a decision to upgrade!
Dale
If the Biesemeyer splitter will fit your saw, go for it! I'm using the Merlin on my old Jet saw, but would slightly prefer the Bies if they had one to fit. The PSI overhead guard/dust collector is nice, and I'm smack in the middle of mounting mine to the saw.
If you can't find a splitter that's a fit to your saw, you could make wedge-shaped gizmos for your throad inserts. Not as safe as a splitter with anti-kickback pawls, but better than nuthin'.
forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
Another proud member of the "I Rocked With ToolDoc Club" .... :>)
I recently purchased the 1023slx and replaced the stock guard and splitter with the microjig splitter and the PSI overarm guard. For cutting small stuff I use the grippr system. Finally, I have grown to like the grip-tite magnetic featherboard. It's easy to put on and take off. Good luck.
Might want to check this out:
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You did not mention earlier the kerf size of your blade. If you have a thin kerf blade (as I do) some of the splitters may not work. Just a note of caution.
All,
I checked out Lee's Shark Guard and splitters and I think his design, workmanship and price make this a product worthy of any woodworker's serious consideration. His design partially addresses the questions raised regarding positioning the splitter as close to the blade as practical by fore and aft adjustments of the guard assemply.
Doug
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