I’m building four combination wood storm doors for a client; each door will have a separate screen and storm window. I could attach these inserts with simple turn buttons, but a more elegant solution would be to use the round locks mortised into the frame.
I have tried to attach a pic of what I am talking about here, but I don’t know if it will appear. Also, I notice it is a “gif” file, and I don’t know how to make it a jpeg.
Anyway, I have spent way too much time already combining through internet sources (including Blaine), and I can’t find a source for this hardware.
Anybody have a suggestion?
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I just found this site the other night. Under the reproduction hardware, look under windows. There are a couple of nice turn latches on the second page. I thought I saw some spring hinges in the antique section.
http://www.charlestonhardwareco.com/
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Thanks; I looked through the stuff (both the antique and reproduction) and could only find locks for double hungs and casement.********************************************************
"It is what we learn after we think we know it all, that counts."
John Wooden 1910-
This is an alternate screen latch
http://kilian.stores.yahoo.net/phelscscreen1.html
The circular type latches are standard on these doors but I don't know where to get just the latches. Maybe the company could help. Scroll to the bottom of the page, easy change.
http://www.combinationdoor.com/combdoor.htmlBeat it to fit / Paint it to match
You must be some sort of search genius with the internet.....I did find the round "EasyChange" latch from The Combination Door Company; I called, and the person I spoke to said they could not sell the latch separately. However, if I can't find this type of hardware anywhere else, it did occur to me that I might get one of their distributors to call them and see if it could be ordered through them as a replacement part.The insert cam fastener (from Kilian) could work too, but I would need to find a way to get a clean kerf in both the door frame and screen insert. I found one of these in my junk drawer, and I was able to get it to work by using the Fein Multimaster, but the kerf was pretty ragged. A router bit won't work (not deep enough), and I thought a saw kerf (with The TS)would give too much slop between the frame and the screen insert (the cam on the one I have is just over a 1/16" thick).Any other ideas?BTW, what were the search words you used to turn these up?Thanks again for all your help.********************************************************
"It is what we learn after we think we know it all, that counts."
John Wooden 1910-
I've hung a bunch of the wood combination doors over the years. They were distributed through Brockway Smith. I knew the shipping clerk and he was able to get me a replacement cam but that was a few years back and now he is retired. Knowing that Brosco carried the doors, that was the first place I looked.I'm always looking for unobtainimum. When I find suppliers that carry the unusual, I bookmark them. Kilian was one. I searched for 'screen door cam latch' on their site. I'm not sure that this is the correct name for the hardware. I thought I had seen some on that Charleston site, just the other day, when looking for something else. Essentially, I didn't do an internet search, just accessed some places I knew about. It certainly helps to know the proper name when searching but it doesn't always work.The wood screens on Brosco doors are rabbeted into the opening, the cam placed in the door. It's actually a combination of the door frame being rabbeted and the insert being more deeply rabbeted leaving a 7/16" x 7/16" lip. All it takes is a slot behind the lip of the srceen for the cam tang/bar to slide into. With the screen or window panel lipped over the opening, the bar of the cam doesn't have to be a perfect fit in the slot. It just has to place pressure on one side. I know Whiteside and Amana make slotting bits from 1/16" to 1/4" in thickness. In a table, without a bearing, they reach 3/4".Making a plain turn latch is a simple as it gets. Common on Shaker cabinetry. A recess/notch for one end of the latch to fit in would keep it from falling out of locked position, or a stopped slot for the bar. I'm sure you can think of a dozen ways to make your own. Might be a nice touch on a custom job and free you from having to have a specific piece of manufactured hardware. The bar could be anything you want, and wouldn't necessarily have to have an arch shaped slot, cut by a bit.Beat it to fit / Paint it to match
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