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   jackplane | Jan 14, 2004 07:24pm | #1

   why not use knife hinges...?

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   Steinmetz | Jan 14, 2004 09:03pm | #2

   Lofton, How about SOSS invisable hinges ? Use three on a door.

   Easy to rout into place& nothing protrudes into the inner cavity of the cabinet. 

    Use sheetmetal screws instead of furnished screws, if into composite material.  Also pre drill screw holes and use longer screws. Stein.

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   Fingrs | Jan 14, 2004 09:54pm | #3

   Thank you, Stein!  That's just the sort of suggestion I was looking for.  SOSS will do nicely.  Lofton

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   JohnWW | Jan 14, 2004 10:46pm | #4

   LOfton

   The knuckles of a Soss hinge will project into the opening when the door is opened and the door will have to be opened 180 degrees to be out of the way.

   Why not make the shelf unit a little narrower with a spacer on the inside of the hinge side of the cabinet, then you could still use the euro style hinges.

   John W.

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   Fingrs | Jan 16, 2004 03:16am | #6

   Hi, John.  Thanks for your response.  When I designed the kitchen I did not have the appliance lift on hand, so I based my design on the width of the KitchenAid mixer my wife uses, plus a little for good measure.  However, when the cabinets were finished and the appliance lift on my workbench, it became apparent that the design of the lift (including the shelf width needed to accomodate the mixer) dictates more width than the cabinet provides, at least with the current door configuration.  It just fits if I can get the door out of the way.  I think the SOSS hinges will work, even if they protrude somewhat.  And having the door open 180 degrees?  Well, once the lift is raised I think the door can be closed to 90 degrees or thereabouts if needed.  This is critical since the door opened to 180 degrees blocks access to the door to my shop...

   Lofton   

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   JohnWW | Jan 16, 2004 03:44am | #8

   Lofton,

   Here's an idea from left field: make the door removable, hold it in place with magnetic catches on both vertical edges and just unclip it and lean it up against an adjoining cabinet when you're using the mixer.

   John W.

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   Fingrs | Jan 17, 2004 02:16am | #9

   That's quite an idea, John.  In my mind I see Barney the wonderdog departing the premises with my cherry door clutched in his jaws...

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   Fingrs | Jan 19, 2004 07:23am | #10

   Hi, John,  On a second reading I realized my post about Barney the wonderdog may have sounded a little rude...not my intention at all!  I am open to any and all suggestions, and I appreciate your taking the time to offer yours'.  It's just that having a one-year old pup around has sensitized me to not having anyting nailed or screwed in place lest it become the latest dog toy!

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   CharlieP | Jan 15, 2004 04:27am | #5

   Blum has a zero protrusion hinge that moves the door out and swings it out of the way so a sliding tray can be pulled out without hitting the door.  The standard configuration is for a full-overlay door, but I believe that they can be used with a special base plate that allows them to be used with an inset door.  They aren't cheap, but they are nice. 

   The folks at cabinetparts.com 800-857-8721 are very knowledgeable and helpful, and would be able to confirm which hinge you need.  They have provided immediate shipping on everything I have ordered from them. 

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   Fingrs | Jan 16, 2004 03:25am | #7

   Thanks for your post, Charlie.  I was looking at the same hings as my salvation, and called the cabinetparts people yesterday before posting to Knots...they were most sympathetic about my problem, and had no solution.  I think the SOSS approach will work, and hey, I always wanted to route a mortise on a standing cabinet...and those 35mm holes will be gret fun to fill in the solid cherry door!  Lofton