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1. 
   oldusty | May 29, 2009 04:59pm | #1

   Hi Samson ,

           The design at first looks to resemble the old East Lake styling , looks like a floating top maybe .

     thanks for sharing

          regards  dusty

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   saschafer | May 29, 2009 05:08pm | #2

   It looks like there are joints in the places indicated below:

   View Image

   -Steve

    

   
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   Samson | May 29, 2009 05:16pm | #4

   Looks right to me.

   I think I could dope out how to make a facsimile, but I was curious to hear if anyone had any insights about details.  Yours is a good one.

   I think you'd have to be careful about grain direction on the legs given that thin curved section near the apron.

   Joining the four supports the middle could be accomplished in lots of ways too.  I'd love to see the underneath to see how it culminates and meets the top.

   The top also looks like it folds out or otherwise expands, perhaps.

1. 
   WillGeorge | May 29, 2009 07:58pm | #14

   but I was curious to hear if anyone had any insights about details.  I saw a woman in the picture!

   And the table is worth a second thought!

   Edited 5/29/2009 2:39 pm by WillGeorge

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   James R. | May 30, 2009 08:46am | #18

   That was the second thing I noticed. Definitely callipygous to say the least. Nice table.Jim

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   philip | May 30, 2009 09:41am | #20

   Samson,
   I think the building itself is more complicated.
   The best insight I ever had into furniture projects that appear complicated is to draw them out full scale on sheets of thin play, section by section. This helps to determine where joints are to be made and angles of meeting, and it also gives one templates or patterns for future use . Undoubtedly those legs are made up of several sections each, and the patterns would determine where extra material is to be left for use by clamps when glueing the sections; these would be sawn or chiselled off later. It would not be necessary to have wide boards.
   That one is a relatively simple one , with no carving to be accommodated....Philip Marcou

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   WillGeorge | May 30, 2009 12:06pm | #21

   That one is a relatively simple one , with no carving to be accommodated....

   And my two canopy beds need carving! Wish I could do it by hand!

   And I need one the same with Fei as the name..

    

   
2. 
   Samson | May 30, 2009 03:37pm | #23

   Excellent advice.  Thanks.

3. 
   Glaucon | May 29, 2009 05:11pm | #3

   S,

   You are talking about the table, right...?

   Glaucon

   If you don't think too good, then don't think too much...

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   Samson | May 29, 2009 05:17pm | #5

   Well, the building is very impressive too, if that's what you mean.  ;-)

1. 
   Glaucon | May 29, 2009 05:30pm | #6

   The building? Oh. Yeah, the building is good too. ;^)Glaucon

   If you don't think too good, then don't think too much...

2. 
   roc | May 30, 2009 09:29am | #19

   : )>You are talking about the table, right...?<It is an attractive photo in many respectsaaahhh yesssrocGive me six hours to chop down a tree and I will spend the first four sharpening the axe. Abraham Lincoln ( 54° shaves )

   Edited 5/30/2009 2:30 am by roc

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   nazard | May 31, 2009 07:17am | #27

   >You are talking about the table, right...?<

   It is an attractive photo in many respects

   aaahhh yesss

   roc,

   Your spelling is a bit off.  "It is an attractive photo in many asspects"

   Spell check is your friend.... <Gr>

    

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   roc | May 31, 2009 08:29am | #28

   >asspectseasy now. Don't get us in trouble. Any deeper than we are.rocGive me six hours to chop down a tree and I will spend the first four sharpening the axe. Abraham Lincoln ( 54° shaves )

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   nazard | May 31, 2009 09:27am | #29

   Don't get us in trouble. Any deeper than we are.

   Right.  I'm immediately moving on to the next thread in the "Joinery" category: "Butt joints for bookcases"....

4. 
   JsHerbel | May 29, 2009 06:50pm | #7

   Looks like an example of a well-defined and aesthetically pleasing butt joint :0

   http://www.ithacawoodworker.com

1. 
   Samson | May 29, 2009 06:55pm | #8

   I believe the word is "callipygean."

   Edited 5/29/2009 12:10 pm ET by Samson

1. 
   Glaucon | May 29, 2009 07:00pm | #9

   Calipigean...You clearly are wasting more time with crossword puzzles than you are in the WW shop.Glaucon

   If you don't think too good, then don't think too much...

1. 
   Samson | May 29, 2009 07:04pm | #10

   Nooo ... uh, crossword puzzles were not the hobby that made me remember the word callipygean.  Just call me an .. uh ... art lover.

   Edited 5/29/2009 12:11 pm ET by Samson

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   saschafer | May 29, 2009 07:07pm | #11

   It's "callipygian."

   -Steve

    

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   Samson | May 29, 2009 07:09pm | #12

   Thanks.  Phonetic guesses foil me every time.

   So you do crosswords?

   Edited 5/29/2009 12:12 pm ET by Samson

2. 
   JsHerbel | May 29, 2009 07:48pm | #13

   I believe the word is "callipygean."

   Indeed it is. That somehow sounds more dignified than bootylicious.

   http://www.ithacawoodworker.com

5. 
   gofigure57 | May 29, 2009 10:29pm | #15

   Look to be the elusive hay buster design,  Contact Lataxe he now has much experience with hay related pieces.

   Nice table, thanks for posting.

   Tom.

6. 
   KiddervilleAcres | May 30, 2009 12:39am | #16

   Samson,

   Looks like some big time challenges there sir. 

   Any thoughts as to what material was used?  The supposedly weak part of the legs is where they curve back to allow/meet for the apron, yes?  They do look like they're quite significant though.

   Lataxe will shurely like them legs methinks.

   Regards, 

   Bob @ Kidderville Acres

   A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!

7. 
   Frank Vucolo | May 30, 2009 07:47am | #17

   All kidding aside, that is a fantastic photograph!

   Thanks for that.

   Did you take it?

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   Samson | May 30, 2009 03:31pm | #22

   No, I didn't take it.  Found it in my Flickr travels.

8. 
   chairmannz | May 31, 2009 03:44am | #24

   Hi Samson<
   Did see the table this year in Barcelona.
   Yes very nice table but big problems with the top of the leg in the top bend.
   Most have been repaired, the cross grain is the problem.
   I was smart and took 2 pictures from the bottom, because i liked this table and thought to make it for myself.
   Have a look and let me know what you think.
   Bernhard.

   
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   Samson | May 31, 2009 04:06am | #25

   Bernhard,

   Thanks you!  What an amazing coincidence that you had these pictures and saw this post!  Did you get pictures of the woman too?  ;-)

   I was kind of scratching my head about how they managed that top bend without serious problems. 

   And pictures of the bottom just like I imagined I'd take if I were there myself!! 

   I am in your debt, sir. 

   So now we need to decide how we would build it better.  I'm thinking a clever glue up might be in order to avoid the cross grain problem.

   Could you tell how the top originally worked?  Was it meant to expand?

   Cheers,

   Sean

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   chairmannz | May 31, 2009 06:58am | #26

   Hi samson.The top is as far as i can see the Dutch style slides to pull out.
   I did not look how the top was done because i would use steel runners for the extension.
   Have a look here-- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antoni_Gaudí
   It is Art Nouveau at its best in Furniture and buildings.
   I went there to see his creations and would like to make a his furniture.
   This table is a bit more work also a look from down under.
   Where do you live?
   I am from New Zealand.
   Bernhard.

   
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   Samson | May 31, 2009 06:05pm | #30

   Thanks again, Bernhard.I live in the US, in the state of Maryland.Thanks for the links and additional pics of yet another wonderful table. I was recently working on a design for a game table (about the size and height of a coffee table. My own doodlings have a good deal in common with the picture you posted in general ways - similar curves and such. I wasn't intentionally going for art nouveau, but it seems my natural inclinations at this stage are pulling me in that direction. It will be good to study up on the ground the art nouveau movement covered - there is indeed little new under the sun.Best,Sean

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   chairmannz | Jun 01, 2009 02:33am | #31

   Hi Samson<In the picture of the leg you can see the crack in the leg, inside curve.
   I would strengthen this with 2 big dowels drilled from the inside, depth almost till the outside, drill offset.
   What i could see from the repairs they did that a big screw/bolt was used to keep it together.
   Have you seen the nice caving detail at the bottom off the leg.
   I started to change to Art Nouveau about 15 years ago and made most of my own furniture in what i call Nouveau style, see attachment.
   Not much interest here from customers for this style.
   I am a chair and one off cabinetmaker, and all my work comes from other cabinetmakers that can not make chairs and specialised furniture/joinery.
   Now all the rage is this chrome plastic stuff or cheap ugly Chinees/Asian furniture.
   Cheerio Bernhard.

   
9. 
   mr_kramer | Jun 02, 2009 06:13pm | #32

   Cool! Are you up for the challenge?

1. 
   Samson | Jun 02, 2009 06:25pm | #33

   I can do anything ....

   given unlimited time and resources.  ;-)

1. 
   mr_kramer | Jun 02, 2009 06:32pm | #34

   You go boy! Be sure to show us when you finish it.