Hi All,
My name is Triggerski, after some cowboys horse or cat or somthin’, and I’m honered to be in the presance of this “palethera of useful information”.
I just bought a joiner with only one pully and would like to know the correct diameter of the missing one.
It’s a Chraftsman 6″ joiner with
2 1/2″ diameter cutter head, 1/2 H. P., 3450 R. P. M.
It came with a loose 2″ diameter pully and no belt. Whats the correct no load R. P. M. of the cutterhead and how do I calculate the pully diameter? Sears’s B. S. Automated phone system was no help.
Model
# 113.20551 if any one has one to compare to.
Hiyo,Triggerski !!!
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Trig (may I call you Trig?), you should be able to find the part on-line at Sears:
http://www3.sears.com/
However, you need the exact model of the jointer, e.g., if there's a letter in the model number. I plugged in your number and didn't get anything.
If that doesn't work, I'm sure one of our engineering WWers will help figure it out.
BTW, I'm in the Northwest and can identify with being "palethera" ROFL! Please, I'm not making fun, I love spelling mistakes and typos. Hope our plethora can help you out!
forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
I just switched to tew fingers, so be patient with my spelling. Way too much concentration involved here. At least i'm up to 3 werds per min. now.
It says model # 133.20551 only. Thanks for the effort duplication though.
Hiyo Triggerski !!!
Probably not an exact science here but a 5000 RPM cutter would be typical. For that, drive the 2" pulley (on the cutter shaft ) with a 3" pulley on the motor and you'll have a cutter no-load speed of about 1.5 times the 3450 RPM motor speed - just over 5000 RPM. For the formula, divide the motor pulley diameter by the driven pulley diameter - multiply that number times the motor speed - and you've got the driven shaft speed. For a couple of techincal reasons having to do with the characteristics of 'V' belts this won't be exact, but will be pretty close.
So if I find a 3" For the driven, and 4.5" for the motor, I'll get the same results, right? 1.5 x 3450 = 5173 rpm.
Interesting that you can convert diameter to circomfrence and it equals the same result.
Should get more tracksion with larger diameter pullys, any drawbacks?
5173 rpm will work with 1/2 hp motor? I'll try it and report back if I have problems. Weighing each knife for equality will help keep things balanced? , or too much overkill?
Exactly - it's the ratio between the sizes of the pulleys. You could use a 2" and 3" pulley, or a 3" and 4.5" combination - or a 6" and 9" pair. I think that the 3"/4.5" set would be just about right for transmitting 3/4 to 1 HP. Balancing the knives seems more than you'd need to get started, but I'm no expert on fine tuning a jointer, maybe others have some experience to share in this area.
......I just went to my shop to check my 6" Sunhill jointer, and it has a 3.5" diameter pulley on the motor, driving a 2.5" pulley on the cutter shaft - just under 5,000 RPM. It's also a 1/2" belt and the pulleys are steel, which I prefer because the aluminum ones seem to wear so easily.
And the larger the pulleys, the longer your belts will last, because they don't have to make such a sharp bend to get around the pulley.
Thats all very good stuff, thank you.
Hiyo,Triggerski!!
You might investigate the new link belts, available from almost any woodworking tools supplier by the foot. They greatly reduce vibration and last much longer to boot.
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Take a look at this catalog page, and see if it looks like yours. For this model, the 2" diameter pulley goes on the arbor, with a 2 1/2" diameter on the motor, for a loaded speed of about 4300 rpm (no-load will be almost 4500 rpm). You could also use a 5" diameter on an 1800 rpm motor with the same result. With a 1/2 hp or so motor, you don't need pulleys any larger than that.
Edit: It would probably help to give you the link. Look at page 8 of 16. http://files.owwm.com/PDF/Craftsman/1966-Catalog.pdf
Be seeing you...
Edited 3/11/2003 7:40:16 AM ET by Tom Kanzler
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