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1. 
   RMillard | Dec 26, 2004 12:25am | #1

   I'd just glue pieces of sandpaper of the various grits to a small sticks of wood. Perhaps you could give the one edge of the stick a slight back cut so you're sure the sandpaper will reach all the way into the corner.
   I do something similar to sharpen my molding planes, although they are mostly rounded shapes.
   Rob Millard

2. 
   stephenpinn | Dec 26, 2004 02:23am | #2

   Others may have more experienced answers butI would treat it much like a veining carving tool.  Consider that you have 3 edges (or tools) that you are sharpening.  1) sharpen 1 long edge, 2) sharpen the other long edge, 3) clean up the edge where the 2 long edges meet.  Step 3 should, obviously, not round the corner but just clean up the burring surfaces.

    

   Steve

3. 
   Midnight | Dec 26, 2004 02:38am | #3

   David... I'm in the same boat; need to figure this one out for myself...

   Near as I can figure, I need to flatten / polish both backs on the flat of the stone before honing both bevels. Only way I can think of to get them both done at the same time is to hone across the corner of the stone i.e. rotate the stone 45 deg off the horrizontal, let the corner of the stone guide the track of the honing guide, using the guide to set the honing angle...

   If anyone can figure a better way.... pipe up....

   Mike Wallace

   Stay safe....Have fun

4. 
   JeffHeath | Dec 26, 2004 07:09am | #4

   David

   RMillard's suggestion works well.  I took an old lignum vitae woody plane sole that had the sides blown out, and cut it into strips, putting a 45 degree bevel on one side.  Stick your sandpaper on it, and start rubbin'.  Rubbin's racin', son.  Works just fine.  Slipstones will do the trick too.  I use them on some of my strange carving profiles as well.  I have a tormek, but the setup with the special jig takes too much time.  By the time I've got it all set up with the right setting and numbers, I'm finished with my little homemade sticks of sandpaper.

   JC

5. 
   OrchidGuy | Dec 26, 2004 07:56am | #5

   Hi davidgenrich,

    Have you considered using a slip! A slip is a sharpening stone that is used for sharpening blades that have a contour to them. You could checkout:http://www.japanwoodworker.com  Just click "woodworking tools", then select "shapening tools", then select "Slips". The slips have different shapes and sizes, as well as grits.

   Those daring young men in their flying machines! 

6. 
   jim | Dec 26, 2004 02:50pm | #6

   Hey;

   I just use a file on mine.  Unlike most chisel these are a little softer so a file works fine.

   Regards,

   Jim

7. 
   BG | Dec 26, 2004 03:29pm | #7

   David,

   I'd probably bring it back...too little value for all the trouble.  However, sharpening these kinda angles, I've got a stack of popcicle sticks that come in real handy to glue sandpaper too.  I have been eyeing the DMT line of Dia-sharp sticks for various sharpening tasks... http://www.dmtsharp.com

    

    

8. 
   bigfootnampa | Dec 26, 2004 03:43pm | #8

   You do NOT sharpen this like a veining gouge.  It has the bevel on the interior of the corner so that the outside corner can be kept quite sharp and angular.  I would use my little diamond paddles on this.  They come in handy for lots of small profiles like this.  You have to be quite careful right in the corner and the diamond paddles are just right for this as they cut on one surface only.  Since the diamonds are REALLY HARD you can do the work quickly which cuts down on errors ... a few well placed strokes should be all that's needed.  I can't remember the brand of my diamond paddles but Woodcraft carries them.  Whatever you do work only on the inside bevel if possible ... if you have to work the outside just keep it flat and square, don't make any bevels there.

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   stephenpinn | Dec 26, 2004 07:41pm | #9

   CMR thank you for the correction, when I said like a veinging gouge i meant that you traet it as 3 separate cutting surfaces, not that you remove metal from the outside, although my initial message could have been understood to mean that.  Thank you for the clarification.

9. 
   Rich14 | Dec 27, 2004 10:31am | #10

   Dave,

   Even an expert like Leonard Lee, in his book, "The Complete Guide to Sharpening," calls these, "the chisels from hell," making sharpening V tools for carving "seem like child's play."

   He recommends a file for sharpening, because the tool is generally softer than other chisels - Rc 54-58 ("For reasons known only to corner-chisel manufacturers.") You should make the file a safe file by grinding off the edge teeth of a 6 or 8 inch mill file. If the tool is too hard, use a diamond file.

   A 30 degree bevel is usual, but you may need 35 degrees for hardwood.

   "Once the inside of the chisel is filed, it should be honed with a file-shaped hone, as fine as can be found." Of course, both faces must be lapped (polished).

   The 2 cutting edges must be kept at 90 degrees to the spine and the edges must not be swept back which would let the heel lead the cutting action. Try not to get a hook in the corner.

   There's more advice, but it is discouraging.

   I've never used one, but from the description of the problems, the tool sounds like more trouble than it's worth.

   Rich

10. 
    GHR | Dec 27, 2004 07:28pm | #11

    I would use a surface grinder if I had a lot to do.

    For one a good hand stone will work.

11. 
    Steinmetz | Dec 28, 2004 04:04am | #12

    Dave, I use two diamond coated metal sharpeners that are credit card sized

    FINE and VERY FINE grit. I carry them in my wallet (in their little pouches.)

    Can't beat them to sharpen my and my  friends' kitchen knives / router bits and those tiny drill bits 

     I bought them in Woodcraft at abour $9.00 ea

    Have had and used them for 7 years.  Micro bevelling plane irons and chisels too.

    Steinmetz 

     

1. 
   Jimmbo | Dec 29, 2004 05:04pm | #13

   You cary diamond coated sharpening cards in your wallet?  Must have been a boyscout.  I used to cary something in my wallet so that I would always be prepared ... but those were different days ;)

1. 
   Steinmetz | Dec 29, 2004 05:28pm | #14

   Yeah Jimbo, and you carried your Lucky Strikes wrapped up in your tee shirt sleeve too. Probably sported a crew cut or, a D A haircut to boot. Steinmetz.