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   SEBDESN | May 23, 2004 04:40pm | #1

   You might do a search, there was a very long thread about the things that was very interesting.

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   Sancho | May 23, 2004 06:46pm | #2

   Heres a in debth thread from the archives here

   14477.1  hope this helps

    

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   sharp | May 23, 2004 07:27pm | #3

   that thread is two guys fighting about their opinions.

   hopefully someone reads this that owns a fuji turbine that can state the performance.

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   Sancho | May 24, 2004 05:33pm | #9

   Geeze sorry I read the post and reread it. What i read was different people 2 in particular giving some detailed info on the pros and cons of different guns and set ups. Soory but I thought thats what you wanted.

   Go buy a Accuspray. I hope that helps. 

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   sharp | May 24, 2004 10:44pm | #11

   i didnt mean to be harsh to you ..

   i was just hoping for some feedback on the turbines..

   thanks for your time.

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   nikkiwood | May 23, 2004 10:01pm | #4

   I've used the Cap Spray #9100 (made now by Wagner), and I like it a lot.

   It is a four stage machine, and it can spray virtually anything -- with the proper tip. I use it mostly for lacquer, but I have used it with water-based products, and even latex paint straight from the can with no thinning.

   I have not had any experience with other HVLP units, except for a 2 stage machine owned by a friend (paid about $250). The experience made me really glad I had come up with the extra $ for the 9100 (about $900, when I bought it).

   That said, many units have been introduced since I bought mine, and you should talk to people who are more up-to-date than I am. American Woodworker did a survey about a year ago, but as I remember, they only covered the low-to -mid priced units.

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   KesslerCraftsman | May 23, 2004 10:31pm | #5

   Hi.

   I recently purchased an Asturo conversion HVLP from Homestead finishing..since I have a compressor.

   It is incredible...works like a dream with stains, shellac and lacquer.

   Larry

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   pockethole | May 24, 2004 01:36am | #6

   I have a 3 stage Eaglespray unit with an Accuspray gun.  I've used it with M L Campbell waterborne pigmented lacquer and with Hydrocote warebased products with excellent results.  Ive also tried Elite Finishing Supplies water based Aqua-Cote but had to thin it too much to spray properly.  I purchased the unit from Highland Hardware several years ago   However, they no longer sell the Eaglespray.  A Google search turned up Hood Finishing Products as an Eaglespray distributor.

   hoodfinishing.com/finishing_equipment.htm

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   sawduster | May 24, 2004 06:47am | #7

   I've had the Fuji 3 for about a year and a half now and it has performed well.  I think you will like the newer set-up that uses a different gun that doesn't blow random dust around when you're trying to paint.

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   sharp | May 24, 2004 04:36pm | #8

   thanks for the input

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   Sphere | May 24, 2004 10:15pm | #10

   I am really happy with accuspray guns..Eagle turbine is well used and does fine.

   I also have a Binks conversion gun, but the Accuspray sees more use.. 

   Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

   Repairs, Remodeling, Restorations. 

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   Sancho | May 24, 2004 11:43pm | #12

   No prob lets try this thread it seems to have a lot of info and some links in it. 10425.1

    

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   Jellyrug | May 25, 2004 02:49am | #13

   I have returned to woodworking, after many years of not being able to settle down, due to an international career, working oversees.

   Back in California and my shop is almost complete, the next step being some spray equipment. I recall many years ago (+-20) spraying lacquer very successfully with a small compressor and a conventional spray gun in my father's shop and getting excellent results. We were not too concerned about the bad fumes in those days.

    After looking at all the new equipment, specifications and the information in this forum, I must say, something I experienced a long time ago, as simple and easy, now seems very complex and confusing.

   HVLP, seems the way to go, some say a turbine works fine, others say you need a compressor, as a class A finish does not come with a turbine?

   One compressor guy does it with a 4cfm pancake compressor, the other says you need a 7hp compressor with a 30 gallon tank?

   If you look at a Wagner HVLP gun, the review says you can do it with a pancake compressor, but Devilbis has a specification of 13cfm, at 23 psi on their Finishline 3 guns?

   So, where do we go from here?

   To me, a compressor makes more sense, as it gives more flexibility to experiment with different gun pressures. When they talk about 13cfm, is this when the gun is spraying at full capacity with the nozzle set at it's widest pattern? If you are spraying woodwork, where most of us spray in short bursts, do you really need a big compressor?

   Confused Willie

   Willie

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   MBL | May 25, 2004 08:31am | #15

   To me, a compressor makes more sense, as it gives more flexibility to experiment with different gun pressures. When they talk about 13cfm, is this when the gun is spraying at full capacity with the nozzle set at it's widest pattern? If you are spraying woodwork, where most of us spray in short bursts, do you really need a big compressor? -Jellyrug-

   ..............

   Friend, you are correct.

   Air tools useful in woodworking can be used too, and it's nice to have compressed air to clean machinery, tools, blow saw-dust out of biscuit slots, clean the shelves, sweep hard to reach areas, clean dust from target prior to finish, and so forth. Tools are: screw-drivers, drills, nut-drivers, ratchets, staplers, nailers, brad nailers, typically. Here, even drive an air-drill press self-made from an ebayed pneumatic-drill-head, with a self-made air compressor made with a junk-yard-sourced automotive air-conditioning unit, for a few years too.

   Using a HVLP gun like Devilbiss, the specs are for all adjustments open to full. That is not necessary for most things on woodoworking. Most modest compressors can run the Devilbiss HVLP gravity cup unit for most wood work jobs.

   -mbl-

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   Sancho | May 25, 2004 06:15am | #14

   Heres more info for ya

   http://www.homesteadfinishing.com/phpBB2/index.php?sid=3dde713d28c2476459fa5afe7475a6b5

    

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9. 
   mudman | May 25, 2004 09:02am | #16

   Hi,

   I have the Q4 and like the turbine a lot. I have seen and used other turbines and believe the Fuji is the best. Unfortunately I cannot say the same for the gun mine came with (the bleader type). I have used Binks guns and they are better, though more dificult, and not turbine compatible. I am not looking to replace the gun, and I am quick to ditch any poor preforming tool. So I guess that means something.

   The Q series really is a lot quiter than any of the others out there. Oh yea, Im not convinced that the filter works very well so I tape a good furnace filter to the case.

   Mike