I need help putting a price on these machines
HasanM
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Hello friends,
I found these two machines for sale and I was hoping to find help putting a fair price on them. they’re in working condition but need some restoration with some missing parts (like handles, etc.)
one is a delta wood and metal cutting bandsaw 28-380
the other is a delta 37 220 6″ jointer.
any suggestions is appreciated
thanks
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How much as they asking? Both are sort of desirable machines.
The cast iron bases are sought after. They are popular machines so finding parts isn't to hard.
Wood/metal bandsaw is not rare but not common either. That is a machine a few of us would like to have. I would expect them to bring a good price.
Thank you all for the replies
The seller is asking around $850 for each machine, but I didn't think that was a fair price, giving their conditions and how much work they need.
Way, way, way high.
Price will vary with location but that is high.
The bandsaw has two desirable options. The high and low speed gear box and the cast iron/Empire base, it also has the fence which isn't common. Those definitely increase the price, but at that price this would have to be 100% complete and working machine, no missing parts, etc. Just need a cosmetics and even then it would be TOP DOLLAR.
Joiner is over priced. Again, the base is very desirable but it is only a 6". I have the same joiner with the base but 8". Running and use it regular and I seriously doubt I could get $850 for it.
I doubt they are going to sell. But you could do what I have done. Go see them. Be honest but polite and tell them if they decide they want to sell call me. I am interested but not at that price. You never know. They may really want them gone in a couple of months.
Thanks, that's good advice
Sometimes it works, you never know. I wouldn't mind having that bandsaw myself.
Once upon a time, I put a lot into fixing up old machines and hand tools. If that's what you want your hobby to be, great. But if you want to be working wood, you should pass. Buy the best machine that is complete and working, ready to go. It might be new, or used.
You will spend a lot of time fixing these up. And it will cost you more than you think. Even mundane things like proper knobsstart to cost a lot. It likely needs new guides, which are pricey. Bearings, tires, it all gets expensive. And I'd bet there is something wrong you aren't even aware of.
Some guys lovingly bring these things back to life, even repainting back to new condition. Again, if that's what you like, go for it. But you'll be buying a burden, not a bargain.
The bandsaw is a little intriguing, the jointer isn't worth it.
I really like restoring old machines, but I think one can only restore a limited number of machines and tools in their life. I'm at that stage where I can spare some time restoring these machines but I think these would be the last machines to restore.
I'll try to think more carefully about it.
Normally I'm in agreement with John_C2, but I'd jump at the chance to buy these machines. You can't beat old iron.
I have a similar bandsaw, though not with that awesome base. It wasn't too hard to get running properly. It does take some work, but I think it's worth it.
For pricing, does the seller have a starting price? I'm thinking, given the condition, about $200 per machine is about right.
Agree, these will sell around $300 CAD if they are in working condition in my area.
I would take the bandsaw over the jointer simply because I have a low opinion of 6" jointers, they just have too many limitations and when I had one it just frustrated me way too much, and I would not want to invest the time and money into it. If the motor on the bandsaw is good and there are no other significant flaws, like a cracked wheel I would pay $200-250 for it.
The jointer is a hard pass.
Do you have a need to cut metal? Multi-speed just multi's the number of things that could be wrong with a 1950's era saw. If you pay $200 for the saw I'll bet you're in for 5-700 before you're done... IF everything spins and the wheels and bearings are good. The rust would suggets it's been sitting for quite a while.
Thanks! I didn't think about that. the pulleys in the back may just make things more complicated. I never thought about cutting metal with my bandsaws. I mostly use them for resawing.
That would not be a saw I would buy with resawing in mind. It's doubtful that you could find a riser block for it and I believe it's capacity is less than 8". It would be an adequate first saw for someone who does not have one or a nice second saw to keep a ¼" blade on for quick curve cutting instead of swapping blades on my Laguna BX18. Either way at $850 I think they will be around for awhile. Does he know for roughly $1,100 you can get a new Laguna 12/14 on one of Laguna's frequent sales? Jets and Rikons can be had for even less. The jointer is especially overpriced given what it is a short bed 6" jointer that can't do anything particularly well.
Pass!
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Whilst I understand the love of 'old iron' one has to put the machine in context.
I am in NZ, where things are often a lot more expensive than the USA, but can get a brand new 8 inch jointer for USD1200 (Hafco, a reputable budget brand)
A 6 inch is less than USD 500.
A brand-new band saw with similar capabilities and a decent warranty is USD915.
The point is that paying more than new for less well specified old gear is bonkers. The exception might be where it is old industrial gear AND you intend to use it industrially. Rust, hard to find parts, worn bearings and lower quality materials all mean that old tools are seldom the equal of anything above the cheapest modern gear.
Yes, I do love my ancient Walker-Turner lathe, but that is because of who owned it before me, and in who's memory I use it. It is worth way more to me than money.
"lower quality materials"??
You mean high quality materials, no value engineer, no planned obsolescence and better build quality is more like it.
I don't know what they sell in Nz but that is why I prefer old machines and spent hours putting basically my hold shop back in working order. Much better quality than all but the top line machines and they are not comparable in price.
I agree it is not for everyone.
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