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I currently use Titebond II glue for almost everything and have for a couple years. But in the last two months I’ve had two projects that had to be re glued. I’m afraid that maybe I have a bad batch of glue. I’ve been considering buying an electric glue pot and using hide glue for some time now. Also considered trying out a polyurethane glue (Gorilla Glue). As always I value your opinions and hope for some good insight. I mostly work with cherry, maple and oak. Thanks in advance for any help.
Steve Wargo
http://madhunkyworkshop.com
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Love poly-glue, like epoxy, and am on good terms with GF202 from Lee Valley.Never had to re-glue with any of them.
*How old is the glue? If the glue gets to old it will go stale and lose it adhesion properties. TiteBond glue is only good for about 6 months after you open it. If the glue gets frozen it will do the same thing. I put the date on the glue bottle with a permanent marker when I buy it. That way I when its time to replace it.Dave in Pa.
*Amazing how even the simplest thing, like glue, is worthy of lots of discussion in the woodworking world.I would second what David said about the age of the glue. Simple tip: write the date of purchase on your glue bottle when you buy it. If it's older than three-four months, throw it away and get a new bottle. Writing the date on the bottle might sound like stating the obvious, but you'd be surprised how often you'll look at the bottle and say to yourself, "Has it really been five months since I bought that glue?"I use Titebond II as well, and I like it very much. I tried using Gorilla Glue a while back, but I didn't like it. Maybe I needed to take some more time to get the hang of it.I'd love to hear if someone thinks there's a compelling reason to go with the polyeurothane glues over the yellow kinds.
*Steve,Go with your first impulse and get a glue pot and start using hot hide glue. It is one of the strongest glues on the market but isn't waterproof. I keep most of the furniture I make out of the water so that isn't a problem. Seriously, hot hide glue is great stuff, a little tricky to get use to using but is easy to clean up, is not effected by stains and finishes and it can be reversed if necessary. Once you use hide glue you don't go back.Stephen
*If glue has shelf life then why doesn't the manufacturer have a date on the bottle. We as wood worker have no idea how long glue has been on the shelf at the store or stored in warehouses. So maybe the batch of glue was bad. I have kept glue for over a year and have not had a glue failure. Those of us that do not use large quantity of glue would be buying and throwing glue away on a regular basis.
*For what it's worth, this is from the FAQ section of Titebond's website (www.titebond.com):What is the shelf life of Titebond Wood Glues?Most of our yellow and white glues, Titebond Original and Titebond II included, generally tend to last beyond two years. When these glues go bad they get thick and stringy. Titebond Liquid Hide Glue has a shelf life of one year. Bonds made with older Hide Glue may not harden properly. The Titebond Polyurethane Glue has a one-year shelf life in an unopened container. Once the bottle is opened, the Polyurethane Glue begins to cure in the bottle.
*MadHunky, use hide glue on fine furniture projects. Poly and yellow glues have relatively limited uses in a furniture maker's shop.
*Titebond does have dates on the bottles. In the case of the yellow glue products, it is a code. In the case of liquid hide glue, which is more sensitive (in my experience) to going out of date, they print the actual date on the bottle.I buy and throw glue away once a year. Anything I build is way too expensive in materials and time to chance a glue failure. Costs me maybe fifteen bucks a year.Dave
*Glue is Cheap for all in all purposes. Buy small quantities if the frugal you tells you not to throw away glue. Dont let it freeze and dont let it get too hot.
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