Incra versa Vertias router fence guidges
ragman
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Has anyone used these 2 router fences as i am thinging of buying one of them. Any comments would be most welcome.
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I have the Veritas router table and router fence. I can't really compare it to anything else as this is the only one I've used. I can say that the Veritas router table is awesome! It will take any router, and after a 10 minute set up, it goes on and comes off in about 10 seconds. The fence is everything they say it is and it comes will a good manual. Most people that buy it don't get the right angle extension and if they do, they rarely if ever use it. It is a high quality fence, but again, I can't say how the others compare as I didn't really give any a serious look. Well, I did look at the Frued but it seemed a little small. The Veritas has so many more options for extending it and for attaching jigs etc that it seemed to me to be a better product than the Frued. The Veritas fence did seem to do very well in magazine reports. About the only thing they didn't like was that you needed to use a screwdriver (supplied) to make some adjustments. The basic adjustment of the location of the fence does not require tools though.
" Most people that buy it don't get the right angle extension and if they do, they rarely if ever use it. "
Hi Glen- Curious as to where you got your information. Brian
As far as the right angle sled, my comment was a causual observation from another news group. A number of people that responded to it and owned the right angle sled said that they either didn't use it or rarely did. None of them said that because there was anything wrong with it, it's just that they didn't make much if any use of it. Perhaps they already owned tenoning jigs for the table saw, as well as box joint jigs, etc so the right angle sled wasn't really necessary. I can't say why for certain but that was my observation. I think it is a good accessory and some day I'll add it to my table, but I certainly don't see it as a necessity.
Thank You all for you comments on the Vertias router guide. I was half convinced to go for the Vertias system. It seem a more "solid" fence. I'll get the right angle guide too. Cheers all
I too am looking to add a high end fence to my little Jet shaper. I was leaning toward the Veritias fence simply because their stuff just seems well thought out.
I make reproduction gunstocks for military weapons and will be using this to make fairly precise cuts. Repeatability is important as is being able to reset the fence to a dimention and cut more items when I run out of stock.
Can the Veritias do that? If not, how much better is the Incra?
Thanks in advance.
Michael
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http://www.mgstocks.com
Michael,
Interesting field you're in. Sounds fun. I've got to ask, are WW2 vintage Thompson butt stocks desirable at all? There is a guy here who has about 10,000.
Sorry for the tangent, back to router fences...
Steve
Hi Michael, I'll pitch in here while waiting for Ragman to return. I'm a Veritas table/fence fan, but don't have the fence yet (Brian beat me to it). The Veritas approach to "re-settability" relies on brass "stops" that fasten onto the table at the spot you want to return to. See this link. Don't know if that would work in your situation.forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
Hi Ragman, I got the Veritas table,Fence and right angle sled a few months ago and love it. I believe this system will be the last I ever need.
Glen covered most of it well but I don't agree with what he said about the sled. I've used it on end work like cope and stick and it performs better than any sled I've used before (shop made or store bought). It's solid and set up with very little tweaking right out of the box. I highly recommend your getting it too if you go Veritas.
The finger joint feature is cool too.
Hope this helps, Brian
I have an older model of the Incra Fence (I believe it is the PRO) and recently purchased the Veritas fence system to accompany my Veritas table top. I am very pleased with the Veritas system. The fence is extremely well made and easily adjusts for various situations. I think the Veritas is great for all around general work.
If you are looking for a fence that allows precise adjustment to cut dovetails then the Incra would be better. The positioning system on the Incra jig is its main selling point. Personally I never used it much for the joints that it can cut. If I want to cut dovetails I use a Leigh Jig and if I need box joints I use the Veritas with the right angle sled.
For general all around shop work I have been very impressed with the Veritas system.
Bill
Before you make your final decision, allow me to complicate things for you just a bit!
You didn't specify which Incra you're wondering about. They make several systems. I have the Twin Linear, which I bought after taking a very close look at several other systems and doing hands-on trials. I bought mine from Wodpeckers at a woodworking show in a package that includes a Precision Router Lift, a Porter+Cable 3.25HP router, and a router table. Bottom line -- the Twin Linear is excellent.
To be fair, the Veritas and the Twin Linear are different types of systems. To me, the Veritas seems to be a fairly typical router fence with micro-adjustability, T-slots in its face and top, and some accessories. The Twin Linear is more of a router SYSTEM. It has great micro-adjustability of both the infeed and outfeed fences, though I don't usually micro-adjust the outfeed fence. The Twin Linear also has a substantial jig system, with templates that allow you to cut all sorts of box joints and dovetails, including those fancy double-double ones you've probably seen in ads. You can offset the fences by about 20" (if you had to). The system comes with a right-angle fixture which is more substantial than the Veritas, a fence stop, a high-rise attachment for doing vertical raised panels, and a telescoping fence extension. The whole system is really precise, and very smooth. I use it for typical edge routing, special stuff (box joints and dovetails), and I have recently started using it for jointing. Once I started using this system, I could not imagine going back to a tyical router table.
One thing about the Veritas that I like better is that it has a steel top.
As a partner to the Twin Linear, I have to say how great it is to have the Precision Router Lift -- another item that, once you have it, you can't go back to what you had before.
I swear I don't work for Incra or Woodpeckers!
Edited 9/9/2003 1:47:30 PM ET by Matthew Schenker
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