Is Taunton Press going down the river???
The news is full of flooding on the Taunton River and the possibility of a dam failure (wooden dam)! Are we going to get an article on wooden dam building? Are we going to get an article on the use of woodworking tools underwater? (I assume this is a hand plane/handsaw job). Are we going to get any more articles at all???!!!!
Alan & Lynette Mikkelsen, Mountain View Farm, est. 1934, Gardens & Fine Woodworking, St. Ignatius, MT
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taunton press and taunton mass. are 160 miles very roughly apart taunton massachusetts the pending flood is in the south east corner near rhode island . taunton publishing is newton connecticut around 160 miles south route 95 and then 16-20 miles inland( north) on the route that escapes me right now................. yes there it is another too much information light has been illuminated. is there in any room in montana for another carpenter??
" Feed the good wolf....."
Edited 10/18/2005 7:31 pm ET by alias
Edited 10/18/2005 7:32 pm ET by alias
alias,
Tomorrow morning at 8:00 am ish...Kennedy and Kerry will visit the dam to provide their leadership skills to calm the huddled masses and assuage their fears. I'm hoping Kennedy tries to drive across the dam with Kerry in the gun position...
kerry's there for moral support and to administer the drambuie and dramimine........" Feed the good wolf....."
Edited 10/18/2005 8:55 pm ET by alias
LMAO!
Kennedy, if he falls in, is big enough to fill one of the holes in the dam. Sounds like a good use for the fat s.o.b.
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Gee, I thought that was another rhetorical thread starting up !Philip Marcou
Edited 10/19/2005 3:23 am by philip
The more I hang around here, the more I love the Taunton Press. The problem is that Ive noticed that the more I learn, and add to my problem solving ideas the more trouble I open myself up to. Ahh the bliss... I cant remember being ignorant but I hear its great.
As for the river, I have a few sticks of cherry, poplar, some pressure treat clips and some Henry roof cement that Id be willing to donate to build a new dam and save the press. I bet if we all did that we could probably have quite a structure. Raised Panel dam?
-zen
Kennedy has had experience driving across bridges. If he replays the time he did it with a young girl in the shot gun position, lets hope he is the one who fails to surface. But........the buoyancy factor is against us; hot, noxious air rises.Wicked Decent Woodworks
(oldest woodworking shop in NH)
Rochester NH
" If the women dont find you handsome, they should at least find you handy........yessa!"
Man, I can feel the love for our senior senator!!! Everywhere else in the country hates him....we just find him amusing. Yes, Teddy checking on the state of a dam is kind of ironic. He actually "saved" some fisherman over the weekend from getting swept out to sea by telling them they should get off the breakwater. At least that's how he told it to any reporter that would listen to him. Maybe he thinks he's made up for drowning that girl back on the island.Tim (a few miles from Taunton, luckly upriver!!)
Edited 10/19/2005 7:51 am ET by woodworker79
To BG, Cherryjohn, Alias, and Dukeone,
Your posts apear to be inappropriate for the "General Discussion" folder. By "general" Taunton means woodworking, not politics. Knots created the Cafe for political opinion and other non-woodworking discussions.Of course, it's Taunton's decision whether to move your posts to the Cafe.
Edited 10/19/2005 11:14 am ET by MatthewSchenker
mat... the mental image of kerry and kennedy on the downside of the dam, plugging leaks with their fingers is downright amuseing...from a woodworking perspective i believe it to be poplar. On a serious note, are there many such dams in the northeast ? it does not seem rational to have wooden dams as an intregal componet in flood control. historical significance perhaps, but for life/property protection it seems foolish.
You have to understand that in the Northeast, especially in what many call The People's Republic of Massachusetts, there are many more pressing social issues that require solving (read money) than do maintenance of public works projects (even if they were part of FDR's Public Works Administration). I don't know the history of this particular dam, but others certainly fit the bill.
In Connecticut, due to our obsession with curing social ills, real or perceived or made up (for the $), maintenance of the public way has been postponed with the result that our bridges are collapsing or are in seriously dilapidated shape (not to mention the road surface itself).
There are priorities in life, you see.Griff
plainjames,
There are 3000 dams in MA that are owned privately..and three dam inspectors. Those dams were set up for various reasons, power, water livestock, etc. with a small percentage involved in flood control...perhaps the flood control evolved later on when people built below them. The story goes that 186 are not in top shape...so lets go get the villians ...and give them money to fix them up if they can't afford it...
Alias,
From my area, in Western Massachusetts, the route to Taunton Press is I-91 to I-84 to Route 25, which is main Street Newtown. I believe the nearest bodies of water are Taunton Pond to the West and The Housattonic River to the East. I don't know if either of these are flooding.
Carpenters are doing very well in the Gallatin Valley (Bozeman area), and western Montana (Kalispell, Missoula, Hamilton). Having said that, there's a lot of building going on, but the prices of homes are almost out of reach of normal people. Montana's the greatest place in the world to live, but one of the hardest places to make a living in.Alan & Lynette Mikkelsen, Mountain View Farm, est. 1934, Gardens & Fine Woodworking, St. Ignatius, MT
"Are we going to get an article on wooden dam building? Are we going to get an article on the use of woodworking tools underwater? Are we going to get any more articles at all???!!!! " ROFL!! Good one, Alan!
I saw something on CNN this morning about the dam, but I never caught the fact that it was made out of wood! Wow.
forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
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FG, in addition to being made from wood, that bridge is also 180 years old. Gives you pause...CharlieA human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher
a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts,
build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders,
cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure,
program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly.
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Well, Fine Woodworking is a reader driven magazine....Are you guys volunteering to do an article on the challenges of underwater woodworking?
Just think of all the interesting topics you could cover: How do you illuminate your work underwater? Does grit in the water degrade plane blades and chisels? Marking and measuring strategies. Not to mention the ever popular, what's the best tool for underwater work?
Think of the possibilities!
Well, this is my first visit to look for the wisdom of the woodworking world and I can not find any, just a lot of bile about politics. Save the wisecracks guys and give some space to wise advise on a relevant subject, like dust control under water.
Besides, Kennedy is not going to be elected for ever. We'll get someone else to dislike for a different reason. In the meantime let us all be glad Taunton Press is not in danger!
jmorr87
I think that tearout on highly figured dam wood would be greatly lessened while planing underwater. Wet/dry sandpaper would also be appropriate. I'm still puzzling about the finish for wooden dams, though. Wipe-on, brush, spray? HVHP or HVLP? Waterborne, obviously. Alan & Lynette Mikkelsen, Mountain View Farm, est. 1934, Gardens & Fine Woodworking, St. Ignatius, MT
waterlocks !
Waterlocks!! Thanks! I actually had to think about that one for a moment, never having used Waterlox finishes! LOL.
Maybe the dam job would be a good place to put one of those $1500 adjustable angle Bridge City planes to work. Any suggestions about the proper underwater angle, or should I just try an angleworm? Alan & Lynette Mikkelsen, Mountain View Farm, est. 1934, Gardens & Fine Woodworking, St. Ignatius, MT
I think we should ask one of the dam inspectors... they seem to know a lot about angles. After giving your comment some serious thought though ...I would imagine one of the planes would require a high angle frog.
<< Any suggestions about the proper underwater angle, or should I just try an angleworm? >>
I would suggest that the Honorable Ray Nagin and Govenor Blanco with their extensive experience at flood control, give their fellow like-minded northeastern citizens a hand up(out?) with their current hydraulic problem. If they fail, they can always whine that it was FEMA's fault all along.
Personally, I'd like to know what strategies you are going to employ to resist the formation of rust on your tools. I mean, you can't exactly wipe them off with a dry rag while you're working underwater now, can you? Maybe a really good coating of WD-40 before you submerge would help.Griff
The ultimate test for bullfrog rust inhibitors. ribbit, ribbit.Alan & Lynette Mikkelsen, Mountain View Farm, est. 1934, Gardens & Fine Woodworking, St. Ignatius, MT
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