I am having a debate with my father in law: Is dado pronounced day-do (rhymes with play-do) or dah-do (with a short “a” sound)?
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A debate with your father in law? Is that not a contradiction. Isn't he always right? LOL
Derek
Derek
And the correct answer would be "Yes Sir"
Cheers
LOL
In the sunny south, we say "day-dough."
It's not my Father in law, so' I'll give it a go. Here in New England (CT) it is Dado, like play dough.
Good Luck!
John
Edited 8/16/2005 5:49 pm ET by Jmartinsky
Long A.
However he wants it to sound-
tarsalas ,
It is like Tom a toe or Tomato , Day doe or dad O . Long O Long A is correct .
regards dusty
tarsalas,
Some people still pronounce it with a "T" as in dato.
But why stop there. If you're interested in some real family tension, ask him...
Do you say "rabbet," or do you still call it a "rebate"?
And what about "ogee" -- do you emphasize the "O" or the "G"?
I'm trying to think of other ways to help you out here...
Edited 8/15/2005 7:15 pm ET by MatthewSchenker
American Heritage Dictionary says
dado like playdo...
Mark
tarsalas,
Depends on where you hail from.
In Trinidad, it's Daydo, day ay aydo, daylight come and me want to go home.
In Camptown, the ladies sing this song, dah do, dah do, all the dah do day.
Maynard G Krebs used to pronounce it Daddy-o. Dunno where he and Dobie Gillis lived...
Hope this helps,
Ray
you say tomato and I say tomahto?
VERY FUNNY!!!!!
Central City.
"In Camptown, the ladies sing this song, dah do, dah do, all the dah do day."
Sorry to have to correct you but this subject is too important. The last time I was in Camptown attending the races, the ladies sang "do dah, do dah, all the do dah day".
JHall,
Joinerwork came into Camptown from the other direction..:)
JHall,
Thank you for the correction, my dalies must have been lysdexic.
Cheeers,
Ray
Check out this website and click on the red speaker to hear the pronunciation:
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=dado
Merriam Webster seems to my ear to be saying daydo
That's how a Kiwi would pronounce it
Mhttp://www.macpherson.co.nz
Malcolm, you are telling fibs-a Kiwi would pronounce that word Diedoh, from the corner of his mouth.Believe me , I have made a special study of the dialects prevailing in these far off parts.
Who is Merriam Webster anyway <G>?Philip Marcou
Thanks for the link...Great... but how do ya' know they are sayin' it correctly?
Is he rich? Are you in the will? If both answers are yes, he can call it whatever he wants.................right?? - lol
I agree. It is a Very Long A. Don't worry you won't win and don't want to.
tarsalas,
you pronounce it, 'humbly'.
jericho
Here's an easy compromise: if its plowed with the grain it's simply a groove!
-Jazzdogg-
"Don't ask yourself what the world needs. Ask yourself what makes you come alive, and go do that, because what the world needs is people who have come alive." Gil Bailie
I was taught that the English language rule is: by default when you have a single consonant following a vowel in the stressed syllable, the vowel is long, otherwise short. Does not apply with silent-e. That would make it a long "A" in dado.
On reflection there are so many exceptions though that I'm not sure the rule is that useful. English is so perverse!
English is so perverse!contrary: resistant to guidance or discipline; "Mary Mary quite contrary"; "an obstinate child with a violent temper"; "a perverse mood"; "wayward behavior" I thought English was a 'traders' language and we pronounced stuff to we got it across to the buyer... "No Rules.. Just Right!"
Granted, contrary would have been more appropos. Still, one of the secondary meanings of perverse -- marked by a disposition to oppose and contradict -- seems to fit, albeit not so well. ;-)
Cheers, -robert
Granted, contrary would have been more appropos..You don't teach English by any chance? Do you?
No, but my father had a huge vocabulary and encyclopedic knowledge of English. Mom was no slouch either. I never came close to their level. Just soaked up some at the dinner table.
I also read a lot in grade school, mostly interesting classical fiction my mom recommended until I discovered Sci Fi. ;-)
One surprising (to me) effect of learning language that way, from adults who never lowered the complexity of their ideas in front of children: I often did not know the simpler, more common words for things, only words that many of my schoolmates didn't. There were people who thought I was talking down to them, when I just didn't know the same words they did for some thought.
Cheers, -robert
Well, if you want to argue with Mirriam-Webster, go ahead. Several other dictionaries I checked online all indicate a long A sound in dado. Plus, that's how I say it, so it must be right!
Mike
Day Doe
In England they call it a "Trench". Here in Australia, it's illegal. No dado blades allowed.
There is a law against Dado blades in Australia?
I have decided to resolve the issue by only communicating in writing.
RE: is it illegal....
It seems so. I cannot buy a dado blade set in Queensland but if I have a saw with an arbor long enough, I can install one if I can find one. They are available by mail order.
I found the same situation in England - the table saws were built with arbors too short to accomodate dado sets.
Here in the UK, knarf, it's sometimes called a trench particularly if it's wide, otherwise it's usually known as a housing or even on rare occasions it's called a dado, (pro., day-doh.)
Naturally, a groove, channel, slot or slit runs with the grain, as ev'ry fule no.
It gets tricky when describing similar excavations in essentially grainless materials such as MDF or chipboard, but plywood with its surface grain direction does follow the universally descriptive rules understood by woodworkers all round the world-- with the exception of those in North Americaland that don't seem to follow any rules where every long slot is called a dado whatever the grain direction. Slainte.RJFurniture
Enjoyed your view!
Ah yes, no wander there was a stoney silence when I referred to a Trenching Tool....Philip Marcou
So how do you cut "trenches" if you are not allowed to have dado blades? Just Curious.Mark
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Multiple passes with the single saw blade or get out the router.
Hey there boys,
I'm afraid you've all forgotten the Canadian factor, and we speak english bettn any yous dudes.
The correct way is day-do-eh
Cheers eh,
Brian
I thought it was day - do - ayGood day ay,
Mark
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Mark,
"Day do ay" I would tend to think that this version is more Eastern Canadian while my version of "day do eh" has West Coast written all over it.
Right on eh,
Brian
Don't get him started with Rabbets and Rebates.
Or, god forbid, fillisters.....
The older I get, the better I was....
papa,
"Or, god forbid, fillisters....."
Don't you mean "filletsters"?
Ha,Ha, HAHHHH
Ray
if it was spelled daddo it would be pronounced dah doh
one consonant between two vowels dictates the hard or long A.
Pete (not Pet)
If he's buying it for you its whatever he wants to call it; otherwise it's Day-do. :)
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