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   eddiefromAustralia | Mar 24, 2003 11:27am | #1

   Hi Mark,

   We have this at work with one of our saws, ducting runs away from the bottom of the saw at an angle of approx 30 degrees to horizontal, but the initial ducting is flexible tube, so we can (with an assistant) bend the tube out of the way and around the timber on the odd occasion that it interferes with the cut (location is approx 1m off the centreline of the blade at the level of the table).  As well, the dust collection off the saw guard is also patched into the same line, with a small length of flexible tube (again).

   Alternatively, you could run the duct along the floor and put a ramp over both sides, still not ideal but at least safer.

   Just a couple of ideas.  I'm sure that others will come up with something safer and/or easier.

   Cheers,

   eddie

   
   

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2. 
   eximreb | Mar 24, 2003 03:41pm | #2

   Mark, Put your duct down from the ceiling to the back corner of the saw, on the opposit corner from the side of the blade the the fence is on. If you are going to be cutting down the middle of a 4' X 8' sheet a lot, then take the duct off center 30" Think about it.

   Good Luck -The Bohiemian

    

3. 
   rmcjh | Mar 24, 2003 03:53pm | #3

   The current issue of Wood Magazine has a section dedicated to installing a dust collection system.

   Roger

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   Oriole | Mar 24, 2003 04:21pm | #4

   Hi,

   To avoid this problem I put my dust collector next to my saw. I use flex hose to connect and it lays on the floor. It is also the shortest run in my shop. I am in a two car garage and have support poles running down the middle making the middle space not that usable. I grouped my router table, bandsaw and jointer to the left behind the saw. This allowed a short ceiling run to this equipment. I have a infeed/work table behind the saw to the right. All other equipment is around the edge of the room, and my SCMS is on a rolling cart with wings so I can move it outside.

   Oriole

4. 
   KevinLBS | Mar 24, 2003 05:37pm | #5

   MarkH-

   I have absolutely nothing to tell you about dust collection, but just wanted to say that the title of your post has become my new saying. :)

   Kevin

   "It sucks, but not where I want it to."

5. 
   forestgirl | Mar 24, 2003 07:19pm | #6

   One of the shop layouts I've seen had the DC located in the middle, with 3 machines arranged around it in a triangular arrangements.  Group included tablesaw, can't remember for sure the other two.

   forestgirl -- the one who got "sucks" taken off the censored list!!!   ;-)

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   BrianMcG | Mar 25, 2003 08:38am | #16

   Thanks FG, Talking wood without "sucks"? Your my hero...opps, heroine.

   PS..Is there really a "seven words you can't say" list?

   Brian

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   forestgirl | Mar 25, 2003 06:25pm | #18

   At least seven, I suspect!forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl   ;-)

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   RoyinMD | Mar 25, 2003 07:43pm | #19

   That reminds me of George Carlin's old bit "The seven words you can't say on television". Saw him live once, what a great show.

   I had a second thought which leads to a question. Where's your power cord? Isn't that in the way too.

   Enjoy, Roy

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   MHargrove | Mar 25, 2003 10:15pm | #21

   That old Carlin routine was hilarious.

   Yes, I have the same problem with my power cord -- it's strung along the floor. 

   Once I know how to solve the ducting problem, I'll re-route the power to follow the same path.  Right now, I'm a major fan of the approach that Tom F. and Terry H. have implemented on their saws -- dropping the duct at the upper right corner of the table. 

   -M.

6. 
   RoyinMD | Mar 24, 2003 07:48pm | #7

   The island idea is a good one for larger sized shops but you may run into future problems wanting to add other machines later. Wrap everything around the walls. Try setting your tablesaw like a penincula to the left or right of a workbench, or a machine or two in between. I have my table saw sitting to the left of a workbench and scrap bin, access from the front, leftside and rear but not the right. DC comes in from under the workbench top, nice short run, well not really, but no verticals.

   But, I did start the "Most Trashed Shop" thread! :o)

   Enjoy, Roy

7. 
   nicobie | Mar 24, 2003 07:54pm | #8

   Buy a small DC unit and stick it under the extension table or do as I do and use a shop vac for the table saw and hook up everything else to a big DC.

   The proof is in the puddin'

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   forestgirl | Mar 25, 2003 02:11am | #11

   I've found that the jointer is the easiest machine to collect from when it comes to using a vacuum.  Must be because of the low percentage of dust compared to shavings being produced.  Vacuum is somewhat useful with the tablesaw, but nothing compared to a DC.forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl   ;-)

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   Eddy | Mar 24, 2003 10:53pm | #9

   How about a dedicated shop vac to the table saw by itself?

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   Lilshaver | Mar 25, 2003 12:22am | #10

   In my old shop I had the duct drop from overhead at a point just to the right of the farthest reaches of the fence. This arrangement was seldom, if ever, in my way.

10. 
    TomFerreira | Mar 25, 2003 03:34am | #12

    Mark,

    Here's how I did it:

    TDF

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   MHargrove | Mar 25, 2003 08:17am | #14

   Yes, I see.  Excellent idea.

   -M.

11. 
    Mach70 | Mar 25, 2003 07:14am | #13

    I placed PVC runs and conduit before the floor was poured, but that isn't much help to you. Any chance you'd consider cutting the cement? Noisy, messy and probably expensive unless you do it yourself with rental gear but if you're sure you're going to stay in your current home/shop it might be worthwhile. If considering cutting the floor make sure there's no existing drain lines crossing your intended path.

    http://www.wood-workers.com/users/mach70/smdcsaw.jpg

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    BrianMcG | Mar 25, 2003 08:35am | #15

    Gotta go w/ a dedicated vac..Emo tells me Fein makes a mdl that is actuated when the saw is turned on. Sounds perfect. Brian.

    PS...Great title! :)

13. 
    TerryH | Mar 25, 2003 04:34pm | #17

    Mark,

    Placing the vertical run at the RH rear corner of the saw won't interfere with the use of the saw at all. Here is what I did.

    Thanks,

    Terry

    More dust collection ideas here:http://www.dusteliminator.com/shoptour.html

    If you are interested.

    
    

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14. 
    MarkRoderick | Mar 25, 2003 08:05pm | #20

    I can't answer your question, but I have to say this is the cleverest caption I've seen for a long time. I bet every (male) woodworker opened it.